In MDA's system there is the opportunity for either play intrigued you have a 5 that can shoot the 3 (DMo). So the question is, which play do you think Harden would be better in provided we had the shooters, PnR or PnP? I've been thinking about this for a while now and my own feeling is that if we were running pick and pop at the 3-point line with a 3-point shooting 5, that Harden would be even more effective finishing against a single defender with more space at the rim than he is in a pick-and-roll play. I think it would decrease his turnovers and make it easier for him to find and distribute to open shooters.
Agreed. That's why I wanted the Rockets to go after Horford. One a side note, Harden would be deadly with Paul Millsap as a stretch 4.
Harden-Dwight pick n roll with DMo at the 3 point line along with other shooters or Harden-DMo pick n pop with Howard waiting for the alley 'oop oh wait....
Ryan Anderson wants to come here per hoopshype, i think he could be worth the max, the guy can flat out score, look at his pers off the bench. A true shooter.
What about Harden/DMO pink-and-pop with Durant opposite arc, Uthoff in one corner, and Goudelock in the other corner? Or Harden/Durant pick-and-pop with Seth Curry opposite arc and DMO and Uthoff in the corners?
He's not athletic enough to do anything defensively. He is absolutely horrible on that end. He makes Michael Beasley look like Dennis Rodman.
I'm not sure why this is a question.. .almost as if its one versus the other. If one is working better on the court, you defenses will make adjustments. You need an array of various PnRs, and you need motion in the offense. If you look at the Warriors, they'll go straight into PnRs, they'll do horns sets, they'll start possessions out with a mini-weave of PnRs across the three point line of sorts. It's about getting variety to the offense and having options off of options off of options. I'm not concerned about whether the pick and pop or pick and roll is marginally better for Harden. I'm concerned about the coaches putting them in position to attack those plays from various starting points and angles, and about all the players making smart decisions off of those plays. But, yes, of course, if you want to do a pick and pop, you need a pop guy that can effectively shoot threes.
Systems cant contain Harden. Harden contains systems. He gone do, what he gone do. Doubt much changes other than a few extra passes before it comes back to Harden to shake and bake.
Now we're talking. Personally I like the big being able to set the pick with Durant ready opposite arc ready to catch Hardens cross court whip pass. Him and lebron are the only two players in the league that can make this pass consistently. Having KD ready to catch that pass while the defense is scrambling towards him would be lethal. Imagine all those plays were ariza either bricked a wide open 3 or took it to the hopp only to miss the layup or fail to hit his terrible mid range jumper, That would be all KD. The rockets were pretty good last year when Ariza scored 20+ points and unbeatable when he got 25+. That would be an every game occurance with Durant. Dmo and Capela would fit right in with both of these guys. Dmo is and excellent passer for a big which is what you want when You have kD and harden not to mention he can shoot from the corner himslef.
Yeah, in the end a lineup with Capela, Horford, Durant, Harden and Beverley should be pretty damn good, and also the potential small ball lineup with Horford, Durant, Harden, Beverley and another guard/sf able to shoot. An eventually healty D.Mo would be icing on the cake, although i'm not sure who we should eventually keep between him and Ariza, but the fact that D.Mo cap hold plus McDaniels contract are just a little more than Trevor contract leads me to think that maybe we should keep the young guys, don't know...
So ideally the big and Harden be able to read live and go into either PnR or PnP depending on how the defense is playing it. In other words. ....pick option. That's ideally what I want to see. But. ................... Where is the big with the ability to play both roll and pop while still boarding at a high level and providing some decent rim protection? Outside of Marc, DeMarcus, AD, Love (questionable D), and possibly LaMarcus (not good rebounder) are there any other bigs flying under the radar who could do both roll and pop while giving us decent D and boards?
Is this a cleverly disguised "draft Johnny Utahoff" thread? Nice find, bbholic, draftexpress thinks he'll be available in the second round and he's a stretch type with good handles and okay rebounding. Here's his stats for those that don't know him: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jarrod-Uthoff-41067/stats/ His highlights: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/B0E2i_2b13k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Also, I voted for pick and pop, but we would be most dangerous if we do a mixture of both. Keeping the other team guessing is huge. I'd think that Al Horford would be perfect for that role. He shoots .344 from the 3pt line and is an adequate roller as well. Horford/Durant/Uthoff 2017!!! Get 'em all!!!
I think you sacrifice rebounding at the center position and try to make it back up by implementing team rebounding schemes when you have Capela out of the game. The whole team should memorize this: https://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/fundamentals/rebounding.html I know a lot of people don't like Rondo because he's a poor shooter, but he is a very good rebounder, passer, and a motivated defender in big moments. I think he would be worth pursuing if we get a starting big that doesn't rebound very well. If he was willing to do it, he'd be a good ball handler when we use Harden as the decoy. He passes out of almost every situation so I think our guys will feel more involved with a guy like him on the floor. He'd also be a good enforcer when effort level is low or a player from the other team starts acting a fool. Edit: Michael Carter Williams is another rebounding pg that plays defense. He's just not an enforcer type.
I believe Uthoff is plug and play ready. And I really think he will go in the late first round. Even though draft express has him clear out of the draft, he's simply too skilled not to get drafted. I think he'll work his way into the first but if he's available when we pick.....it's a no-brainer. I really think we should trade into the late first and grab him and own his rights for 4 years. He'll be better than at least 45 guys that get drafted.
