If I was a Baylor fan and they kept him... it's possible I might be relieved. Embarrassed as hell. But relieved. I wouldn't openly admit it though, not with a smile one my face. But I'm not sure. Depends on how mad I was, as an insider. I'm trying to imagine it happening at TAMU but I can't relate, we haven't had a coach of Briles' value at TAMU. I'm not saying Briles is the best in the world, but he's the best Baylor has had.
Briles recruited the players and some of them that ran into trouble had priors, so he knew what kind of risk he was taking....
I agree. This is on Briles. He was the one who had the conversation with former Boise Head Coach Chris Petersen about Sam Ukwuachu where Peterson claimed he told Briles about the disciplinary history of Ukwuachu (related to violence with girlfriend) but Briles denies any of that took place.
Baylor is going to do everything in their power to leave Briles unscathed through this. We'll see what the full Pepper Hamilton report reveals (hopefully) but don't believe for a second that their "brief" gave the BOR enough info to fire Starr but not Briles. Hope Starr lawyers up.
The moral police is out in full force on the interwebz. Mostly Longhorns fans that want us to say that Briles deserves to be fired. Lol. Yes, he does but I also don't want him gone. Weird position to be in. It seems like plenty of Baylor fans want him fired at the same time. I won't be mad either way. I'm more concerned with Kendall Briles. He's our real future.
I'm not a huge Charlie Strong fan right now but when two players jumped one of their girlfriends in the dorm, they were gone in a blink of of any eye. At the end of day, it's just a game, and it's unfortunate fans care more about it more than students the university is supposed to serve. What makes it worse, is that Baylor is supposed to be a Christian college with high moral values. There is hypocrisy in that.
Even before this current episode, Baylor alums/fans were the most disgusting hypocrites you'll find anywhere.
Not to mention, all charges were eventually dropped against those two. Didn't matter to Charlie. Both guys are now getting second chances playing football at new schools. This is the answer to the "BUT WHAT IF THE GIRL IS MAKING IT UP?!?!" argument that Bears fans love to present. Briles is scum.
Kicking people off of teams (and essentially out of school) based on accusation and hoping/expecting them to get a scholarship somewhere else is not a good answer to anything.
The number of false rape accusers, despite what many want you to believe, is astoundingly low. The number of programs willing to take a chance on a falsely accused talented athlete is astoundingly high. Once rape has been accused, which bet would you like to go all-in on? Which would hurt more to lose? And I'll just say this: we routinely hear the "well, she shouldn't have gone back to his place at 3 AM if she didn't want it" argument as some sort of rape defense. How come no one ever says "well, maybe you shouldn't have tag-teamed a drunk girl at 3:30 AM because you never know how she will feel about it in the morning" argument against the accused? You think seeing Meander and Sanders kicked out of school made some guys at UT re-think going home with a wasted chick? I'd bet it's crossed at least one of their minds...
I think Charlie Strong has the right idea with what he did at Texas. Whether or not what those two players did was criminal, you can't put yourself in that situation as a scholarship athlete at a major program, period. They knew where Charlie stood on the issue on day one, it was spelled out verbatim. Kicking them off the team showed future recruits that if you have that sort of character problem, don't commit to Texas.
That's a small percentage of Baylor fans and they're mostly women oddly enough. I've argued with them online. The majority of fans know that Art did something wrong here. Did it violate NCAA rules? I'm not sure and it doesn't appear for now at least that the NCAA will punish Baylor.
I think Baylor may have moved on from the coaching staff if it was after the season. This team has a lot of talent and we could have moved on to a quality coach. If nothing else pops up, Briles and the staff will be safe. I argue that there is no real proof that Kendall Briles did anything wrong but I've been told "that's not how it works!!" Also, this is a bigger deal because we're winning now. That's how sports work. The folks in Austin call us little brother but they're mad that little brother has gotten bigger and is now beating big bro's ass.
This is irrelevant. You don't convict people because the number of false accusations (let alone acquittals) is low. What a ridiculous argument. I get that this is a supply and demand issue. At the end of the day, there will always be another kid willing to put on pads and catch a ball for a scholarship, so they're completely expendable. If you even so much as get implicated in wrongdoing, buh-bye. The program is sacred, and any number of lives or reputations can be sacrificed to protect it.... but this type of "shoot first ask questions later" attitude when it comes to criminal justice is seriously troubling. I suppose we can blame the NCAA in part for "accused" being the new "guilty". So, in that sense, kicking people out of school is a good answer... to the question of avoiding investigation and/or arbitrary punishment.
