Baylor is officially the most morally bankrupt university in the country. Sacrificing safety of its students in the name of football.
Since Briles clearly won't do **** to keep his players in line, I at least hope Starr's replacement takes a much more active role in preventing and punishing this behavior going forward.
Wow. As much as I enjoy Baylor having a good program and as much as I have respected Briles as an amazing coach, Baylor should be ashamed of letting him go unscathed.
Who is shocked? Baylor is relevant for the first time since Mike Singletary played for them. They know they're no better than Boise State. One bad season and they're back to being on the level of Kansas football. It won't take much to sink them. Firing Briles does that almost immediately...especially in the midst of yet another scandal...as they would be out of the market for a top coach until at least next year.
It's more like who's shocked when a recent national championship winner has the same problems and people just moved on like it wasn't even a story. Baylor, however disgusting their actions are, shouldn't be held to a higher standard by the media and the nation than FSU, IMO. As someone who grew up a Baylor fan with multiple alums in the family, I'm sickened by this and will not continue to support them until Art Briles is gone.
Translation - Look everyone, we fire someone! So now leave us alone so we can get back to what's REALLY important - winning football games. I wonder what Grant Teaff thinks of all of this.
Baylor fan showing class all around (generally). Good show. Go get Briles. Noose him up and hang him for everybody to see.
I'm disappointed they haven't shown Briles the door. They need to. Beyond that..and bigger than Baylor, alone...we need to figure out what's reasonable for a university to do in these situations...and who is to be held accountable for that. We're asking universities to be investigator, prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner in these events. One university (I believe Tennessee) was sued for expelling kids BEFORE they were found guilty in a court of law. The expelled athletes argued it was only done because of racial bias against them. On the other hand, we have schools like Baylor and FSU where they've taken this approach...and that's clearly not working either. Essentially, we're at a point here where the allegation has to be taken as true against the athlete/student....and an investigation has to commence by the university that's on a tighter timeline than the actual police investigation is on (assuming the university wants to do something about it BEFORE the kid graduates)...and then the school has to, based only on their own investigation and not on the decisions of the judicial system (which haven't been arrived at yet) make a decision to kick the kid out of the university. I'm not sure that makes sense. THAT IS NOT A DEFENSE OF BAYLOR!! I'm totally with everyone here that Briles needs to go, based of what I've read so far.
I have no idea why we expect universities to do the job of law enforcement. It's a recipe for disaster.
I agree. It's going to disappoint us, every single time. On one hand, we're all told to presume innocence till someone's guilty. On the other hand, if you don't kick a kid out of school based on the allegation, you're going to have heads roll for it. I'm not sure there's a way that any university can honestly navigate that.
I don't know how you handle situations like this. But I do know how you DON'T. And that's by trying to sweep it all under the rug so you can keep on winning.
I have no problem with seeing Starr and Briles gone. No problem at all. I've yet to talk to any of my friends from Baylor who have a problem with that either. That's not really what I'm talking about , though.
Ken Star is probably the least culpable one in terms of the specific coverups and awareness of players. He's just the go-to for institutional failures related to how the university treats title 9 issues.
I have some baylor friends they are happy briles isn't gone. I don't think most people care about what happens as long as they win football games.
