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Bernie Sanders 2016 Feel the Bern!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I agree but would add two more.

    Life lesson 102:

    Listening, negotiating and compromise take at least two parties. If one group is convinced they have a flawless savior and any notion disputing that is part of a vast conspiracy, that any other candidate is Satan, then you might have a hard time negotiating.

    Life lesson 103:

    Civil disobedience does not include throwing furniture at people.
     
  2. dback816

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    What the heck did I just read? Someone posted an article about how Bernie's campaign views PP and instead of addressing his campaign in some way, you somehow ended up blaming PP and Wall Street instead?
     
  3. Roxfreak724

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    Perhaps they shouldn't frame them as an opposition, but planned parenthood did spend $1 million as an ad buy for Hillary Clinton earlier in the campaign if I remember correctly. As someone who has donated to planned parenthood after they received a round of cuts from Congress (right before they spent the $1 million), this was frustrating to see.

    The entirety of Planned Parenthood is a well-run organization with good people. The heads of planned parenthood likely have deep ties to the establishment, and so throwing a million dollars (even when money was supposedly tight and they were actively asking for donations on the ground) is not surprising. Emily's List is another good example. In addition, whenever Unions have been given the option of popular vote preference, Bernie has rarely (I would say never, but I don't know for sure) lost an endorsement
     
  4. KingCheetah

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    New Sanders campaign theme song...

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  5. LosPollosHermanos

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  6. glynch

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    Life lesson 104: You can't always trust the mainstream media. BTW this is not to say you can never trust it.

    Life lesson 105: In this day and age if there were any actual videos of folks throwing furniture (since folks have cell phones that take video) they would have been found in an all out search and offer to buy by the Clinton campaign. You would have seen them and would not have to repeat unproven charges made by folks with a bias.
     
  7. Bandwagoner

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    barbara boxer claiming to be scared behind her army of police and secret service is the icing on all of this. I'm sure alienating a large group of young progressives will be great for the future of establishment liberals.
     
  8. glynch

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    Warning not suitable for the contented.

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  9. robbie380

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    Bernie said he is from the working class. Has he ever held a job outside of government? I only remember a quote from an article saying he was a "****ty carpenter" lol who couldn't pay his bills.
     
  10. Deckard

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    Planned Parenthood has a long history of donating to the political campaigns of those running for office who are ardent supporters of the organization and their work. Obviously, supporting candidates running for president that they know will pick Pro-Choice judges for vacancies on the Supreme Court and the other lifetime Federal courts is a huge deal to them. Hillary Clinton has been a strong advocate of Planned Parenthood and women's rights for decades, so it is unsurprising that they would support her. They also support other strong advocates for women's rights.

    Planned Parenthood spends money on politics and elections through the Planned Parenthood Action Fund (its federal political action committee), through its Super PAC, and through a variety of related 501(c)(4) entities.[110] Planned Parenthood endorsed Barack Obama in the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections.[111][112] In the 2014 election cycle, Planned Parenthood spent US$6,587,100 on contributions to candidates and political parties (overwhelmingly to Democrats) and on independent expenditures.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood#Political_advocacy

    Planned Parenthood is obviously not in Hillary Clinton's "pocket." You describe Planned Parenthood this way, "The heads of planned parenthood likely have deep ties to the establishment, and so throwing a million dollars (even when money was supposedly tight and they were actively asking for donations on the ground) is not surprising." My guess is that they would find that description both amusing and wildly off base. Certainly Cecile Richards, president of the organization and daughter of the late Ann Richards, would find your description both hilarious and disturbing, in my humble opinion. Is anyone or any organization who supports Ms. Clinton "part of the establishment?" I think not, even if it fits the campaign strategy of the Sanders campaign to say so. Was Barack Obama seen as "part of the establishment" in 2008? No, unless the Sanders campaign is in the business of rewriting history. I thought that was the job of the Republican Party.


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  11. B-Bob

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    Ah, so that's the narrative now. If we dare criticize Saint Sanders or any part of his campaign, or if we can say a single non-Satanic word about an "establishment democrat," ... we are labeled "contented."

    **** that narrative. Another stupid, insulting, and divisive bit of rhetoric from his self-righteous zealots. To think I was going to *vote* for him in Cali. Oh Jesus, that was a close call.

    I love this "the democratic party -- which I joined in a random marriage of convenience last year and have pretty much pooped on from day one and will leave as soon as this election is over -- has to make a decision." LOL.
     
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  13. Deckard

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    ^^^
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  14. Newlin

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    Can't believe how pissed off Hillary supporters are getting at Bernie. It's a political campaign for goodness sake. I think he's been going kind of easy on Hillary from the very beginning.
     
  15. dback816

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    Like the Hilldawg isn't going easy on Bernie's ass

    I wouldn't say it's a matter of good will on Hillary's part though. It's not like Bernie was ever a real challenge so she never had to take the gloves off.
     
  16. Invisible Fan

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    Life lesson 106: When you're mathematically eliminated, blame it on the rules and establishment that you knowingly signed up for and your followers never gave 2 ****s about.

    Life lesson 107: Know when to hold'em. Know when to fold'em.
     
  17. glynch

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    Let me reply in kind but with sarcasm. Aggh , Bernie and his supporters so rude. They do not respect St. Hillary the Patron Saint of the Actually possible (because she says so) and are so simplistic and unrealistic. Besides the Bernie Bros and millions of self hating under 45 women are just victimizing poor Hillary because they are misogynists..

    BTW still looking for some proof on your part that furniture was actually thrown around in the Nevada Convention, though you repeat the claim of some Hillary supporters as conveyed in some of the press.
     
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  18. Deckard

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    I'm looking for proof that you give a tinker's continental damn about winning in November. You appear to be far more interested in your candidate than you are in victory over the extremists of the Republican Party and the dangerous liar and buffoon that has wrapped up their nomination.
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    Now it's Bernie's fault that Heartless Hillary can't close despite total media and DNC support? LOL. Perhaps Debbie Wasserman Schultz should have closed off their access to voter data again.
     
  20. glynch

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    Hillary is a flawed candidate. She had every advantage that a candidate could possibly have, but she is just not that liked. . She ran better with self professed Dems against Sanders in the first half of the primary due primarily due to name recognition. However, Hillary gets trounced with self described Repubs and also with independents who together make up about two thirds of the electorate. Hillary has high negatives. She is weaker candidate against Trump than Sanders as shown by numerous polls.

    Trump is horrible and a historically bad candidate, so Hillary may still win, but why take a chance.
     

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