1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Bernie Sanders 2016 Feel the Bern!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. glynch

    glynch Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    18,050
    Likes Received:
    3,578
    Bernie has been pretty gentle in attacking Hillary personally compared to even her attacks on Obama in 2008.. She is for the status quo. She has been shameless in her hustling Wall Street cash.

    I guess having a corporate Democratic women is a change, sort of like electing the corporate Dem Obama was a bit of a change. Too bad there can not be a bit of a change aside from gender or the color of the corporatist in the White House . Oh, I know Hillary will be a bit more into military adventures.

    I tend to agree with Glenn Greenwald who predicted a couple of years ago that that after the black man the establishment will elect a woman and than an openly gay person if that helps protect the present system.

    Despite this I still have some hope that Hillary, the ever changing political animal, might go for being bolder --for free public colleges and even real national health care -- if she think that this is needed to get her elected or even reelected. Given the Clinton's total comfort and mastery of the Wall Street cash and favor exchange system I doubt we will see any change in this area from her.
     
  2. Dubious

    Dubious Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2001
    Messages:
    18,318
    Likes Received:
    5,090
    In your dreams.
     
  3. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    20,844
    Likes Received:
    12,920
    Thanks for jumping in there.

    I get tired of carrying water for the Grammar Police. It's tough to take anyone seriously when he or she is inarticulate and/or can barely spell; and yet that person feels free in lecturing others from on high.
     
  4. Mr.Scarface

    Mr.Scarface Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2003
    Messages:
    13,046
    Likes Received:
    8,347
    If he does, he can kiss his influence goodbye in Congress. No way he runs as an independent.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2002
    Messages:
    15,503
    Likes Received:
    6,500
    The fix is in tonight in Kentucky -- once again Hillary barely squeaks out a win with a pro-Hillary county holding votes until they figure out how many she needs at the end to edge out Bernie. The party bosses have a rigged system that is letting Bernie get close, but denying him victories in these primaries. Same thing happened with the Iowa caucus. I truly believe that fraud was committed tonight -- this election is being stolen.

    It's no wonder the Bernie voters are so angry -- they are being shamelessly disenfranchised by the DNC party bosses, like the pro-Hillary DNC Chairperson Debbie Wasserman-Schutzstaffel. I hope Bernie insists on a recount in Kentucky and actually follows through on it. This smells really bad.
     
  6. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2001
    Messages:
    45,954
    Likes Received:
    28,046
    She hasnt been half as brutal on Bernie that the pubbies would.
     
  7. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    31,086
    Likes Received:
    48,656
    Lol let's have a 4 way election with Trump(R nominee), Clinton (D nominee) and then two independents with Sanders + a conservative.

    Trump vs Clinton just sucks.
     
  8. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2002
    Messages:
    57,774
    Likes Received:
    41,189
    There are times as a Sanders defender, glynch, that you sound much like a PRC supporter mindlessly attacking anyone who opposes them.

    .....................

    Here's some interesting reporting from US News and World Report. Senator Sanders seems to be losing control of some of his supporters, who turned to violence and intimidation in Nevada when they didn't like the process. Interestingly enough, he didn't rebuke them for their behavior:

    In the past 72 hours, the Democratic primary has turned increasingly acrimonious as a result of a chaotic melee at the Nevada Democratic state convention over the weekend, where Sanders supporters felt party bosses stacked rules against them and cost their candidate delegates.

    Nevada state party Chairwoman Roberta Lange received thousands of calls and text messages, many which were personally threatening, causing the state party to file a formal complaint with the Democratic National Committee on Tuesday. The letter detailed how Sanders supporters and staff actively incited disruption and violence and raised concern that their conduct could be harbingers of how they'll act at the national convention in July.

    But Sanders released a remarkable statement Tuesday, denying any "penchant for violence," defending his supporters and warning the leaders of the Democratic Party that they risked alienating voters fed up with "establishment politics and establishment economics."

    "If the Democratic Party is to be successful in November, it is imperative that all state parties treat our campaign supporters with fairness and the respect that they have earned," Sanders said. "That was not the case at the Nevada convention."

    Later on CNN, Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said Sanders' response was insufficient and just poured additional fuel on the fire festering inside the party. How the multiple camps resolve their simmering procedural and ideological differences in the two months before the national convention remains unclear, but Sanders appears unwilling to suspend his campaign before all states have voted.


    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...n-kentucky-as-democratic-primary-turns-bitter


    Oh, and Ms. Clinton appears to have won the Kentucky primary in a very, very close contest. If the victory holds up, it's an important win for her.
     
    #2728 Deckard, May 17, 2016
    Last edited: May 17, 2016
  9. ipaman

    ipaman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2002
    Messages:
    13,201
    Likes Received:
    8,040
    Ah..., Grammar/Spelling Nazi's, the killjoys of the interwebs.

    Life pro tip, don't post on CF.net from your phone or the Nazis will come after your while completely ignoring your point.
     
  10. ipaman

    ipaman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2002
    Messages:
    13,201
    Likes Received:
    8,040
    One realization I had early on; Bernie isn't corrupt, he has no chance.
     
  11. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,231
    Likes Received:
    102,255
    Any time Trader Jorge and glynch are arguing the same side of an issue, I can feel very, very confident in my total disagreement.
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,231
    Likes Received:
    102,255
    You should talk to some people in Burlington, he has a good ol' boy network to enrich his friends and cronies just like any other politician.
     
  13. glynch

    glynch Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    18,050
    Likes Received:
    3,578
     
  14. Dubious

    Dubious Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2001
    Messages:
    18,318
    Likes Received:
    5,090
    [​IMG]
     
  15. ipaman

    ipaman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2002
    Messages:
    13,201
    Likes Received:
    8,040
    i'll get right on that. where or with whom should i start?
     
  16. Von Rafer

    Von Rafer Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2016
    Messages:
    1,164
    Likes Received:
    743
    It's like Hitler vs Mussolini

    But no, you're "wasting your vote" if you vote third party.
     
  17. Haymitch

    Haymitch Custom Title

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2005
    Messages:
    28,371
    Likes Received:
    24,021
    Start with Ernie Pomerleau of Pomerleau Real Estate
     
  18. Haymitch

    Haymitch Custom Title

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2005
    Messages:
    28,371
    Likes Received:
    24,021
    SMDH now you're getting ridiculous.

    I don't think either Bernie or Hillary have their charisma.
     
  19. dc rock

    dc rock Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2001
    Messages:
    7,622
    Likes Received:
    13,385
    He and his wife are corrupt. You just bought into the Saint Bernard bull****.
     
  20. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2002
    Messages:
    15,503
    Likes Received:
    6,500
    [Premium Post]
    The Hillary campaign appears tired, fatigued and lifeless... much like their candidate. She can't even finish off the retirement community rec center barker Bernie Sanders in Kentucky? This race is starting to look like Martha Coakley vs Scott Brown in Massachusetts. An old, tired, listless candidate getting mowed down by an energetic man of action.

    I mean seriously, if you were planning a major undertaking, who would you want leading it? A low-energy, old, corrupt political hack or Donald J Trump? It's a no brainer. Clinton has no charisma and no leadership skills. So many voters voted for Obama because he was an inspirational candidate. Clinton's candidacy consists of playing scandal defense and having party bosses cement her rightful right to the throne. She's the post-menopausal version of Joffrey Baratheon.
     

Share This Page