Since we have started winning? Starting with the Kazmir trade, which trade would you say was good? I realize it's a hindsight 20/20 type of deal but still.
He's been getting heat too. Unlikely to see as much in the "in-game" threads. I don't really care about the trades he's lost. Sucks, but it's part of the business. They were made in effort to try and bolster the big league team and get closer to a championship. I'm all for those. He's won some trades too. Wasn't too long ago that we were all deifying him for the Cosart trade. The trades he loses wouldn't be/feel so devastating if any of us had any confidence that they'd simply spend money on FA's in the offseason, since they haven't to any appreciable degree thus far. Not doing so reduces the margin for error on trades considerably. That's what unnecessarily makes be the lost trades hurt more than they should. They need to spend money, and they need to shuffle the dog**** out of the lineup quicker. It's inexcusable that Gomez, Marisnick, Tucker, and Valbuena continue to play without bringing up some of the guys in AAA to see if they can do better.
Precisely his point. Ever since they began "sniffing success", trades have been awful. His "good" trades where when they were building/rebuilding. Spoiler December 8, 2011: Traded Marco Duarte to the Boston Red Sox for Marwin Gonzalez December 14, 2011: Traded Mark Melancon to the Boston Red Sox for Jed Lowrie and Kyle Weiland March 20, 2012: Traded Jason Bourgeois and Humberto Quintero to the Kansas City Royals for D'Andre Toney and Kevin Chapman May 26, 2012: Traded Justin Ruggiano to the Miami Marlins for Jobduan Morales July 4, 2012: Traded Carlos Lee to the Miami Marlins for Matt Dominguez and Rob Rasmussen July 20, 2012: Traded David Carpenter, J.A. Happ and Brandon Lyon to the Toronto Blue Jays for Kevin Comer, Joseph Musgrove, Francisco Cordero, Ben Francisco, Carlos Perez, David Rollins and Asher Wojciechowski July 21, 2012: Traded Brett Myers and cash to the Chicago White Sox for Chris Devenski, Matt Heidenreich and Blair Walters July 24, 2012: Traded Wandy Rodriguez to the Pittsburgh Pirates for Colton Cain, Robbie Grossman and Rudy Owens July 29, 2012: Traded Chris Johnson to the Arizona Diamondbacks for Bobby Borchering and Marc Krauss August 3, 2012: Traded future considerations to the Boston Red Sox for Garrett Mock August 9, 2012: Traded cash considerations to the St. Louis Cardinals for Tyler Greene August 27, 2012: Traded Steve Pearce to the New York Yankees for cash considerations August 31, 2012: Traded Ben Francisco to the Tampa Bay Rays for Theron Geith December 4, 2012: Traded Jose Monzon and Wilton Lopez to the Colorado Rockies for Alex Gillingham and Alex White December 19, 2012: Traded Rob Rasmussen to the Los Angeles Dodgers for John Ely February 4, 2013: Traded Jed Lowrie and Fernando Rodriguez to the Oakland Athletics for Chris Carter, Brad Peacock and Max Stassi March 25, 2013: Traded Mike Kvasnicka to the Minnesota Twins for Gonzalo Sanudo April 4, 2013: Traded Jake Goebbert to the Oakland Athletics for Travis Blackley April 15, 2013: Traded C Chris Wallace to the Cleveland Indians for Eric Berger June 18, 2013: Traded Fernando Martinez to the New York Yankees for Charles Basford July 2, 2013: Traded two international bonus slots to the Chicago Cubs for Ronald Torreyes July 29, 2013: Traded Jose Veras to the Detroit Tigers for Danry Vasquez and David Paulino July 31, 2013: Traded Justin Maxwell to the Kansas City Royals for Kyle Smith July 31, 2013: Traded Bud Norris to the Baltimore Orioles for Josh Hader, L.J. Hoes and Derek Fisher August 12, 2013: Traded Wesley Wright to the Tampa Bay Rays for cash considerations August 14, 2013: Traded Travis Blackley to the Texas Rangers for cash considerations August 18, 2013: Traded cash considerations to the Diablos Rojos del Mexico for Japhet Amador and Leo Heras September 3, 2013: Traded cash considerations to the Atlanta Braves for Matt Pagnozzi December 3, 2013: Traded Brandon Barnes and Jordan Lyles to the Colorado Rockies for Dexter Fowler December 11, 2013: Traded Patrick Schuster to the San Diego Padres for Anthony Bass December 18, 2013: Traded Ryan Jackson to the San Diego Padres for Jesus Guzman April 28, 2014: Traded Lucas Harrell to the Arizona Diamondbacks for PTBNL May 19, 2014: Traded Raul Valdes to the Toronto Blue Jays for cash considerations June 12, 2014: Traded Adron Chambers to the Toronto Blue Jays for Will Dupont and Alejandro Solarte July 3, 2014: Traded Andrew Robinson to the Atlanta Braves for Jared Cruz July 7, 2014: Traded Alex Sogard to the Arizona Diamondbacks for Cesar Carrasco July 10, 2014: Traded Bobby Doran to the Chicago White Sox for Jeffry Santos July 31, 2014: Traded Austin Wates, Jarred Cosart and Enrique Hernandez to the Miami Marlins for Francis Martes, Colin Moran, Jake Marisnick and Daz Cameron November 5, 2014: Traded Carlos Perez and Nick Tropeano to the Los Angeles Angels for Hank Conger December 11, 2014: Traded Jason Garcia to the Baltimore Orioles for cash considerations January 14, 2015: Traded Rio Ruiz, Andrew Thurman and Mike Foltynewicz to the Atlanta Braves for James Hoyt and Evan Gattis January 19, 2015: Traded Dexter Fowler to the Chicago Cubs for Dan Straily and Luis Valbuena January 21, 2015: Traded Carlos Corporan to the Texas Rangers for Akeem Bostick March 26, 2015: Traded Dan Johnson to the Cincinnati Reds for cash considerations April 1, 2015: Traded Gregorio Petit to the New York Yankees for cash considerations May 15, 2015: Traded Ronald Torreyes to the Toronto Blue Jays for cash considerations May 19, 2015: Traded Chris Lee to the Baltimore Orioles for cash considerations. July 23, 2015: Traded Daniel Mengden and Jacob Nottingham to the Oakland Athletics for Scott Kazmir July 30, 2015: Traded Josh Hader, Brett Phillips, Adrian Houser and Domingo Santana to the Milwaukee Brewers for Mike Fiers, Carlos Gomez and cash. August 8, 2015: Traded Junior Garcia to the Arizona Diamondbacks for Oliver Perez November 19, 2015: Traded Jonathan Villar to the Milwaukee Brewers for Cy Sneed November 25, 2015: Traded L.J. Hoes to the Baltimore Orioles for cash considerations November 25, 2015: Traded Jed Lowrie to the Oakland Athletics for Brendan McCurry December 2, 2015: Traded Hank Conger to the Tampa Bay Rays for cash considerations December 12, 2015: Traded Mark Appel, Harold Arauz, Thomas Eshelman, Brett Oberholtzer and Vincent Velasquez to the Philadelphia Phillies for Jonathan Arauz and Ken Giles March 28, 2016: Traded Dan Straily to the San Diego Padres for Erik Kratz Since that Cosart trade, it's been awful.
Fiers certainly helped us get into the playoffs last year And as horrible as Gomez is, he was actually good in September last year in the final playoff push That trade was about getting into the playoffs last year, and it helped And on the Giles trade, to be fair that story is far from being told. I know no one wants to hear that right now, but Giles has the stuff, has looked a lot better lately, and we have him for years
Very unlikely he would have been signed here for this year anyway, so wouldn't make any difference for right now Would have loved to have him last year though, would have been a great compliment to our lineup But not likely to be here now either way
The Gomez trade made no sense. Only correct trade was for a top closer. Gomez was traded to the Mets and they did not give much, and then voided because he was injured. With that we still made the trade and gave a lot of talent. The Giles trade, another trade I disagree because I thought we have too much, is killing us right now. Also I was in disagreement on Hinch. What has he done on his career as a manager? A great 1 1/2 months? All analytical numbers said we should had done better last year, win the division and more wins. Same numbers this year said we should win the division. Right now we are a very bad team and looks like all games we make mental errors and pluses are unaccountable for mistakes. We need a change at the helm of we want to win. If we want to develop is ok to keep Hinch
What if the Astros were managed by Jackie Bradley Jr.? "I don't care if [David Ortiz] is 100 years old. I'm not letting him beat me at 100," Bradley said. You'll make a great manager Jack!
Wow I hadn't seen this before. So Hinch has a rep of sucking as a manager with a lot of baseball people and Luhnow hired him anyway? Luhnow just wanted a damn puppet as a coach to control and implement his analytical approach. With the Hire of Hinch and the bad trades over the last year or so, Luhnow hasn't done very well at all.
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this is what the sox line up looks to me using our players. 1.springer 2. correa 3. altuve. 4.altuve. 5. springer 6. correa 7.altuve 8. correa 9. altuve. win today not give them a win.
Marwin 5 game hitting streak and not saying today. Is ok, I don't care anymore as Hinch is terrible and will continue to make mistakes after mistakes. And like I said yesterday, I bet Gomez will play. Hinch must go
