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Former Astros Tracking Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by torque, Apr 4, 2016.

  1. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    VV is mowing down the Braves so far tonight.
     
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  2. texans1095

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    Not taking away from his performance, but it is the Braves... Just sayin'.
     
  3. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Ha. J.R. nailed it. :grin:
     
  4. vince

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    Trading prospects is a double edge sword. They have the potential but odds are most fall far short of them.

    And a big part of prospect success is club house environment. Because confidence which can be so fragile for a baseball player is at stake. In no other sport do you see the mowing down of talented prospects as you see in baseball by the different levels of the minor league system.

    Just because a player succeeds elsewhere is not indicative they'd succeed everywhere even here.

    In defense of the Astros, they can't wait indefinitely for a player to figure it out. And just as prospects are a risk, so are veteran all stars. The Astros bet on veterans and proven guys, and the prospects they gave up are hitting their stride. Life is a gamble. You gotta trust the talent evaluation and scouts that originally got the prospects into the organization.
     
  5. kaleidosky

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    It is the Braves. That's completely valid. Everyone is putting up stats against the Braves (and Phillies to a degree) this year. Also, VV gave up 4 runs before he got out of the game.
     
  6. CometsWin

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    His 2.70 FIP this year is completely valid too.
     
  7. kaleidosky

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    It is. He's been good. But that's a long-term view...if you want to take a long-term view, I'll always consider injury risk and potential innings limitation this year, since that was a big factor in dealing him.

    Short-term, this thread appears to over-react to game-by-game performances, so I think getting a 4 spot put on him by the lowly Braves is worth mentioning.
     
  8. awc713

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    Delino Deshields back to AAA...
     
  9. The Beard

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    If 4 earned is "mowing them down"

    we have plenty of mowers already wouldn't need him lol
     
  10. CometsWin

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    I posted that at the end of 5 where he'd given up no runs, one hit, and struck out five. Nice job though.
     
  11. Amshirvani

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    Edit: Nvm see what you're saying.
     
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  12. UTAllTheWay

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    It was after he posted that, is the point...
     
  13. No Worries

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    What? Cooperstown is in the other direction. Something must be amiss.
     
  14. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Fixed it for you.....
     
  15. Prize Closet

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    Didn't realize Hader was having a monster season in AA. **** you, Gomez
     
  16. CometsWin

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    From Scott Kazmir trade.

    Jacob Nottingham, stinking it up at AA Biloxi.
    .275/.290/.565

    Daniel Mengden, getting it done at AA and AAA.
    2.39 FIP 10.96 k/9 in AA
    3.27 FIP 6.75 k/9 in AAA
     
  17. cangrejero51

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    Villar hitting .296. I remember a forum member that laughed when I said I would use him last year over Lowrie. I also said we "gave" Villar to the Brewers.
     
  18. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NL scout:&quot;Foltynewicz command improved twofold in a year.&quot; Shut out KC. Sat 96.8-98.4. Remind us why Astros traded him...</p>&mdash; Peter Gammons (@pgammo) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgammo/status/731794803780923392">May 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to an industry source, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash">#Orioles</a> have placed Jimmy Paredes on waivers.</p>&mdash; Rich Dubroff (@RichDubroffCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichDubroffCSN/status/731882660952440832">May 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  19. vince

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    We always knew that the Astros would trade talent away. But we had been hoping that some sort of equivalent talent would come back in return. Which has not been the case!

    Gomez and Fiers for Brett Philip, Santana, and Hader is a coup by the Brewers. Gomez is really bad, and needs to be sent down to work on his mechanics. Fiers at least is average.

    Giles for Velazquez, Appel, and company looks real bad for the Astros. Laughing stock bad.....

    Other than Cosart and Kike for Marisnik, Martes, Moran, and Cameron; the MLB has benefited very little from the trades.
     
  20. cangrejero51

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    I had that trade in favor of us, let's see at the end of the year how folty does, but, if he pitches good we gave folty and vv for Gattis and Giles?
     

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