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Source of a Source: Morey is Out

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RudyT43, May 7, 2016.

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  1. bmd

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    They already interviewed Sam. Haven't heard anything about Mario.
     
  2. Harrisment

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    Ah thanks, I've been out of the loop for a few weeks.
     
  3. i3artow i3aller

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    Middle Out
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    Morley needs to lose weight. Dang.
     
  5. dachuda86

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    Dude should be fired. I remember McHale got fired for losing control of the locker room, and now it seems Harden is basically picking the new coach. Morey has definitely lost control of this franchise to Harden. That right there is hypocrisy.
     
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  6. WilliamGCash

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    It doesn't begin and end there. Do you not understand how organisations and group decisions work. Yes, Morey has a say. And this time around, Harden will for sure have a say.

    It will be a discussion.

    But, ultimately Les gets final say. He's the head honcho here, after all.
     
  7. heypartner

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    You make it sound like a realtor presenting someone 4 houses and they choose the one they like the most. Les won't meddle like this is property to buy. And who's to say it is presented as 4 to choose, vs one at a time...like LAL and Walton.

    They could very well have chosen JVG already, but are interviewing others until they finalize any deal wrt Salary and control negotiations.

    Les will damn sure negotiate salary. And he will damn sure decide if a coach becomes Pres of BBall Operations as well, with a GM who works for the Pres. Not sure how those decisions make many fans say Les will pick the coach on technical merit, as well.

    Imo, he will probably only weigh in on overall character and professionalism wrt working with the guy. He will leave it to Morey and staff to choose the top candidate(s) on technical merit, and only veto that for Salary reasons, job description/role/control or some significant interview process reason regarding character/professionalism parts of the interview, but not technical.

    So, essential the interview process has a Technical interview process, Professional/General interviews and Salary/Role negotiations. Morey and staff handle the Technical side, and Les does salary/role and weighs in on professional/general.

    Come on: HR Dept. You know how it works.
     
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  8. JayZ750

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    Where did it say Harden was picking the coach?

    All we've heard is the opposite. He hasn't been involved yet and if he is going to have a role, it's just a role, at the end. Probably pretty smart to have your star player on board with / respecting the head coach.

    I don't think people on this board understand the cultural dynamic in the Rockets organization. I don't think it is remotely possible DM is getting let go this year. And people don't understand Les' role in choosing the coach. he is clearly much more active in that than it seems if you read this board.
     
  9. Nook

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    Huh?

    Harden isn't picking the next coach...... Daryl Morey isn't picking the next coach.

    Every single coach the Rockets have picked the last 20 years has been picked by one person, Les Alexander.

    He deserves the credit and blame for the Rockets last 3-4 coaches.
     
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  11. Haymitch

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    Yeah this has been stated by people in the Rockets org before. I don't know why anyone would still refuse to accept it.
     
  12. chenjy9

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    It doesn't fit their agenda.
     
  13. cdrive

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    How Morey ran off Hall of Fame Coach Adelman:


    Adelman, Rockets disagreed over coaching successor
    Adelman declined to mentor successor
    Rockets tried to make their pick for next coach a new assistant

    Adelman could have remained the Rockets' head coach, but was told that the Rockets had decided to hire his successor and put him on Adelman’s coaching staff if he remained, according to two individuals with knowledge of the talks.

    Though Adelman and Rockets general manager Daryl Morey came together on several issues, Morey wanted Adelman to mentor a successor that Morey and Rockets owner Leslie Alexander would have chosen and put on Adelman’s staff. Adelman was unwilling to make the changes necessary to his staff, arguing in favor of assistants.

    http://www.chron.com/sports/rockets...disagreed-over-coaching-successor-1686558.php



    Smart people, dumb decisions: Asking Adelman to babysit a coach-in-waiting was idiotic

    At the risk of again bringing the Internet drones who worship at the feet of Morey back again – demanding that Adelman to put a coach-in-waiting on his staff has to have been one of the dumbest ideas ever by of one of the smartest men most of us know.

    http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/...an-to-babysit-a-coach-in-waiting-was-idiotic/

    So it is very clear that Morey and Alexander collaborate on coaching decisions. To think or suggest Alexander goes it alone, waives his scepter and selects a coach based on his feels is silly. Come on. Alexander as an owner makes himself avail to council, and his numero uno ear-bender is Morey.

    And what did Morey drive as the next move after driving out Adelman? Stick with the plan. Get a coach that accepts a tier beneath the GM in the organization chart, and one that will mentor a coach to be. McHale & JBB. And that's exactly what happened.

    So running off a HOF coach because you demanded he train his replacement of your choosing failed.
    And then getting a coach susceptible to your plan, a Figure Head Coach, to mentor your replacement Figure Head Coach failed also.
     
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    It's far easier to create narratives that lines up to one's viewpoint than to objectively look at it.

    You're right, a lot of people on this board make a lot of assumptions despite a lot of stuff coming out explaining the dynamic of the front office and ownership. It's far easier for many to just assume Morey is a dictator with far reaching control.
     
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    Sounds like Adelman wanted his assistant Turner to be his successor and the Rocket's didn't want that if you believe Feigan's reporting.
     
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    Why should I not believe insanely credible reporting by a reputable reporter? Just because it smacks down your repetitive claim that everyone is just creating a fantasy narrative out of thin air that Morey is indeed incredibly over reaching on the coaching staff, so over reaching that he gives ultimatums on choosing a HOF coach's coaching staff?
     
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    First of all, Adelman is a great coach, but let's not make him out to be a once in generation coach. He isn't that and didn't do much worthwhile after the rockets.

    It seems your basis is that because Adelman is a "HOF" coach, his assistant coaches shouldn't be subjected to replacement by the FO. In your eyes that sort of move is far-reaching?
     
  18. Haymitch

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    So if Feigen said that Les picks the coaches - which he did - would you believe that?

    Anyway of course Morey plays some part in hiring coaches. I'm sure he gathers info on everyone and presents it to Les, who makes the decision on who to hire.
     
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    Adelman had every right to want more stability in the roster, but the FO had a mandate to build a championship team. That wasn't going to happen with the current roster and required us finding a franchise player (roster turnover).
     
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    this makes me cringe. Adelman was a great coach and a HOFer. It boggles my mind that we forced assistants on him. If i was a coach, i would straight up let it be known that my coaching staff is mine and mine alone to decide on. No freaking respect! Adelman gave Houston more wins with that roster than any other coach could have.
     
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