Sources: Vogel: Contacted by Morey - Morey trying to move fast

If I were a betting man, this is where I think he ends up.

If the Rockets really want Vogel the most (which I am not so sure. I think Morey has long regretted losing VanGundy); they better pony up 35-45 million dollars.

 

I'm not fully convinced JVG would be this accountability chief a lot of people paint him as. I need I reminder of why I think he was not hard enough on Mcgrady.

 

Nook, if the JVG hangup with Les is the uptempo offense, do you think JVG would embrace that philosophy? Can JVG's defensive principles coincide with that type of offense?

 

McGrady isn't the barometer. Steve Francis is. Francis was a ball dominant point guard who played no defense and only drew assists through ISO penetrations.

Under Van Gundy, Francis played defense for the first time in his career and at least was positioned to be a real point guard running the offense.

Harden has proven he can play defense and maintain his offensive play already. A Van Gundy disciple was able to bring this to form with it lasting a full season under Mchale.

It has also been well documented that Van Gundy has openly admitted he'd need to revamp his offensive schemes/obtain help/ for today's NBA.

I don't mind Vogel, but find myself more inclined to want Van Gundy because I believe his time away to have been very beneficial. I could be completely wrong.

I also watched Vogel do some very questionable things in the playoffs this year with his second unit that seemed JB esque.

I believe JVG will be open to assistance on the offensive end... will Vogel?

 

Yes, I believe that Jeff is very open to an uptempo offense...... I actually think Vogel is too.

A lot of times, with offense (more than defense) it depends on the players you have.

 

MOREY MOVE FAST BEFORE KNICKS EVEN CONDUCT THAT INTERVIEW

 

Vogel may require a lower salary than JVG, so Les could go for Vogel for this reason. Last time, Rick Adelman seems to be too expensive for him.

 

Hahaha. Vogel is NOT coming here.

 

I'd be surprised.

By most accounts so far, the Knicks search has been a dog & pony show. They're interviewing candidates but not really because Phil wants Kurt Rambis.

Speaking of Phil, 1) he went on vacation very recently during this "coaching search", ha.

2) Phil still wants the triangle right? Is Frank gonna run the triangle?

Depending on the years, that's a lot of money. Let's just say 5 years — that's $7M-$9M. Hard to blame Frank when Scott Brooks just got $7M/year but $9M+, that's what I'm paying to Popovich or Thibodeau or Jeff Van Gundy.

 

J.R. who do you prefer at coach? What could the Rockets do realistically this offseason that would help restore your faith in the organization?

 

The word from the grapevine is that Morey is also talking to Rick Adelman on the down-low.

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Sign me up for a JVG head coach and Adelman lead assistant.

 

Not necessarily...if Burke is mainly responsible for good defense, and more people than just Bird seem to believe so, then there's no reason to put Burke in a bad position. As HC, you're the one who's going to get fired, eventually. Assuming Burke is fine where he's at, and he probably is, then his current position keeps his job safe. It's believed that Birds is just going to hire an offensive-minded HC to pair up with Burke.

 

I would paint myself red and yellow strip naked and run to the quad....... Everybody is doing it.....

 

The Knicks are still a "meh" organization with a "meh" roster, if Vogel prefers them, i think it has a lot to do with his family.

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Or we are in a worse position than i thought

 

Porzingis is an exciting player to build around and one which Vogel can mold. I'd say that's better than coaching Harden who may or may not be coachable and might not even respect Vogel.

 

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Start with Daryl.

Not about me or what I want but thanks for asking!

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Not totally in love with any of the candidates but of the listed names, Jeff Van Gundy I guess? Although there's a sense of been there, done that (and I love him on TV).

Missed out on Stan Van Gundy after 2014, when they lost to Portland. They pick up McHale's option right after, extend him 7 months later, fire him 11 months later. Talk about bungling it. I guess a moot point since Dwight was here.

Missed out on Thibodeau. Yes, I would have given him full control if he wanted it. Les made it clear though Daryl is going nowhere so that wasn't happening.

None of the Spurs folks have been linked to the job, which is kinda disappointing but....¯\_(ツ)_/¯ One of them would be my first choice. Yeah, I get it, they're raw & unproven.

I poo-pooed the idea at first but have since came around to it (although no idea if he'd have interest): Shane Battier. He'd move to at/near the top.

Mike Budenholzer, is his deal up? Conflicting reports there. I'd love to have him. But he has control in Atlanta, wouldn't have it here so probably cross him off.

So back to here we are with Jeff Van Gundy.

Of the rumored names...
Jeff Van Gundy
Bill Self
Sam Cassell
Kelvin Sampson
Shaka Smart
Kevin Ollie
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Mike D'Antoni
Lionel Hollins
Jeff Hornacek
David Blatt
Kenny Smith
Stephen Silas
Chris Finch

And Frank Vogel &mdash; what are we getting? Now you hear he was a player's coach(not what Houston needs). Then you hear Dan Burke ran the defense. So what are we getting?

 

This wasnt addressed to me I know. Please bear with my response. I have been thinking about this a lot though.

IMO both sides would need to adjust. JVG would have to adjust to letting Harden and the guys run without attempting to call set plays. But when the break cannot be manufactured then Harden and the front office need to adjust to JVG's principle of offensive floor balance. A huge unstated, underrated, misunderstood, and not understood component of effect NBA defense is maintaining offensive floor balance to deny the opponent runout altogether and/or if there is an opponent it is defense with equal the number of defenders of more to severely hamper the opponents fast break efficiency and severely limit the opponents number of runout to begin with.

Both Popovich and JVG (and their coaching trees, Thibs, Bud, etc.) are masters at the critical area of defensive transition. And defensive transition is the single greatest fault of this current team. We played way too imbalanced offensively and left ourselves wide open way too many times for our opponents to just jam it down or throats going the other way.

And then when we would on a rare occasion deny the initial thrust we would relax and get back doored or give up the offensive rebound and put back simply because we were disadvantaged in defensive transition.

Guys, this is why our offense has to change. You can point to top 7 offense or whatever we wound up at all you want. But it doesn't take into account how badly vulnerable our forced and imbalanced offensive play left our transition defense.

And this is why I'm hollering constantly that Harden and our offense has to change. Because you simply can't turn the opponent over every possession and get 100% fast breaks. We have to perform efficiently in half court play because the best teams in the league ain't gonna just hand the bail over to us. However they will for sure jam it down our throats when we throw it to them.



Factoid: We turned our lottery opponents over 19 times a game. We turned our playoff opponents over 14 times a game. That's approximately a 10 point differential all by itself.

Factoid: We turned the ball over 15.3 times a game versus playoff opponents. We turned the ball over 16.6 times a game versus lottery opponents. That's an approximate 2.5 point differential in our favor.

The net of these 2 factoids is a 7.5 point differential against us. And our record showed it. If you dug down one more layer and subtracted games where we are playing playoff opponents with half their starting rotation gone like the Memphis game where we were playing their NBDL team the differential is much greater.

I could go into further detail here concerning number of defensive possessions in transition, etc. But this is enough for now. Needless to say we were one of the worst transition defense in the league and our offense was/is a large part of the problem. And coaches like JVG will fix that if given the chance and the support and cooperation of both Harden and the front office. But JVG also has to let the dogs loose when we have the man advantage and play a more open offense. Which I believe he will.

 

Yeah, i agree with that, but it's really the only reason. And with Knicks organization you never know what will happen in the future, they can always **** up everything.