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Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by peleincubus, Apr 19, 2016.

  1. Commodore

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Trump: if you don't vote me, you're voting herHillary: if you don't vote me, you're voting himMe: then I guess I'm voting for both of you</p>&mdash; David Burge (@iowahawkblog) <a href="https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/727849437339353088" data-datetime="2016-05-04T08:16:43+00:00">May 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Those who voted for Trump already voted for Hillary.
     
  3. glynch

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    I expect Trump to try, but don't know if he has the discipline to keep bizarre statements from sabotaging this attempt. Hillary will attack him personally to try to get him to go crazy and he will probably lash out stupidly.

    Merely changing his policy positions may not be his undoing as Hillary will be changing hers weekly as she normally does.

    If Trump can remain disciplined in his pivot he has a chance.
     
  4. glynch

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    David Sirota on the media treatment of Sander's win.

     
  5. bingsha10

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    By the time this is all over, no matter the outcomes, Trump will have permanently turned Hillary into a rapist and murderer whenever they think of her.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    Hillary in 5. Trump does not match up well with her.
     
  7. NewRoxFan

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    The "me" (? the right wing blogger) is trying to convince others he is taking a principled stance. But everyone knows (including himself, if he is honest with himself) that he will vote for Trump. These tweets are rather silly IMO...
     
  8. Nook

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    Not really.... Because Indiana isn't a winner take all state, it is proportional and the delegate split would be close.
     
  9. ima_drummer2k

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    Yeah, or maybe something like another great depression or the Reichstag....er, Capital building burning down or something.
     
  10. Major

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    It's true. If you win a state that didn't try to win, it's a big deal. If you win a state that you put all your effort into and the other campaign ignored, it's not a big deal. The same was true in Michigan. Hillary winning would have been irrelevant. Bernie winning was huge - in that case, because they both competed hard there and it was unexpected. Relevance of wins is directly tied to expectation. Bernie winning Vermont was irrelevant; Hillary winning there would have been huge. Same with New York in reverse.

    This isn't complicated stuff. And it's not some media conspiracy against Sanders. It's just you acting like our some of resident trolls, reading tweets you don't actually understand anything about, and then running over there to regurgitate them.
     
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    Off-topic: I am genuinely impressed that you know about that event in German history. Didn't think this kind of stuff was taught in schools in other countries.
     
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    The image of Hillary and Trump debating... worthy of watching.
     
  13. Rashmon

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    I applaud all of our resident conservatives who have stated their intention to stay home on election day or vote third party rather than voting for Trump.

    Kudos

    I encourage those who have not yet taken this courageous and laudable approach to do so.
     
  14. Commodore

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    "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other."
    - John Adams
     
  15. B-Bob

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    In case you're wondering why right-wing neocons would be bringing up John Adams in the run up to the 2016 election besides the fact that he was a founding father, it could be the fact that he signed into law one of the most notorious pieces of legislation that was ever signed by a President: The Alien and Sedition Acts.
    Per wiki: These bills made it harder for an immigrant to become a citizen (Naturalization Act), allowed the president to imprison and deport non-citizens who were deemed dangerous (Alien Friends Act) or who were from a hostile nation (Alien Enemies Act), and criminalized making false statements that were critical of the federal government (Sedition Act).

    Only the Alien Enemies Act is still in use.

    There was a reason Adams only lasted one term. He was irascible and thin skinned. He spent more time in Massachusetts than he did in Washington DC.

    Let's see who else Trump name drops: Reagan, check, Adams, check.
     
  17. Baba Booey

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    It's a major event in the history of Hitler, which makes it a major event in history in general.

    I'd be surprised if people didn't know about the Reichstag fire.
     
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    It's funny that people also don't realize that the nazi party NEVER won a majority prior in any election to hitler being named chancellor.
     
  19. rocketsjudoka

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    Actually that isn't that rare. 2004 and 2000 were pretty much like that. From what I gather from history is that that was very common in the 19th C.
     
  20. Deckard

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    Sure, although an appalling number of American students in high school and college avoid history like the plague if they can get away with it. Some of us who love history know quite a bit about the rise of Hitler. There should be a class based on it in high school entitled, "Look what happens to voters who don't pay attention!" A catastrophe, in other words. Heck, I read Mein Kampf out of curiosity when I was a teenager. It's hard to believe so many Germans fell for that garbage, but here is the Republican Party nominating a buffoon like Donald Trump. Stupidity among voters isn't something exclusive to Germany. ;-)-
     

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