Obama keeping the US out of Iraq by sending more troops

so what do we do?

 

We always knew we'd be back after we left prematurely. It shouldn't be a shock.

 

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

The middle east is boring... link

 

No, his mission is to try to make the best decisions for the security of the US and planet.

 

No, his mission is not to make decisions for the security of the planet.

And it's not only to make decisions for the security of the US. It's also about the prosperity and liberty of the US.

 

Shocker.

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More likely they will collect intelligence info. & send it to the Russians so they can defeat Syrian Free Army

 

This is how Afghanistan should have been handled in way back in 2001. I think he is doing the right thing. And yes, he is keeping us out of Syria and Iraq.

The fact that he isn't even contemplating deploying entire Army and Marine infantry battalions (the heart and sole of invasion forces) like Bush did for Iraq and Afghanistan is enough to be considered "keeping the US out of xxx".

Sending 150 special forces troops as training force isn't really anywhere close to the level of commitment that we saw in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Come back to me when he starts sending in Marine victor units(800-1000 size infantry battalions) before considering him a hypocrite.

 

SF has been in Afghanistan for 15 years now. They gain support of the locals but then cannot defend them from assholes and lose support. You give weapons and training just to have the fighters switch sides. I don't see why you think this will work in Iraq.

 

Yes, because sending 5-6 Marine victor units at any given time in Afghanistan certainly helped.

I think you are missing my point. We should have never nation builded in the first place. We should have just sent 100-200 JSOC troops who's sole purpose was to hunt Bin Laden. That's it. Saved plenty of money in the process and have pretty much the same backward lawless Afghanistan we see today.

Hunt Bin Laden and cut ties and place sanctions on Saudi. That would have been the proper course for justice for those who were murdered on 9/11.

 

To me, 'being involved' would be nation building and deplyoment of full infantry battalions.

Sending 100-200 JSOC operators isn't 'being committed'. You know how many random ass countries have some level of involvement with our special forces operators?

 

I thought Obama was going to close Gitmo and get us out of the Middle East?

ha!

 

Glad the commander-in-chief isn't victim to concerns about the optics of sending special ops back in. Call him a flip-flopper or a hypocrite, say he was wrong to ever withdraw, say he's on a slippery slope to fall back in. I hope and expect that he's making decisions with the best interests in the country in mind and not worrying about what people will say about him. Which is just about all this thread is about.

 

Your point is to build a time machine? I really don't get your point because now you are advocating to NOT send troops. OBL is gone, why do you think Obama is doing the correct thing now?

On the flip side it could easily be argued he is "doing something" to deflect the mess in Iraq. Slightly bend a curve and get people killed is a bad policy.

 

I don't know his motives. Maybe he's doing it for all the wrong reasons, which would be unfortunate for all concerned. In these sorts of things, I don't think I can do anything but defer to the president and hope he's faithfully doing his job.