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2015/2016 European Football Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by rox1, Jun 17, 2015.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    He what? What an idiot.

    I am not optimistic.
     
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    I still root for Bayern, but I almost feel like rooting against my own team because of Pep. I'm confused now :grin:.
     
  3. rox1

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    Ummm, related to that MLS All-Star game?

    Unsure what's funny about my comment.

    Expected it from you.
     
  4. Raz

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    Bringing all four Spaniards and going for full speed on the Offense. I see what Pep is doing. Let's see how this works out.
     
  5. Yung-T

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    Know a ton of people who feel this way. Of course you want your team to win, but at the same time you see the bad formations&substitution patterns, Pep's arrogance etc and don't want him to succeed with that bullish. Players bailed him out a lot of times.
     
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    I won't lie and say that has nothing to do with it but it's only part. He's an arrogant a**hole and someone I just can't root for.
     
  7. rox1

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    Figured as much, but ya fair enough.
     
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    Bernat is just not good enough.
     
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    Alonso looks a little lost. Terrible defending led to the goal. At least the last ten minutes looked quite good. Hope we get that away goal.
     
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    True, bad defending tonight and useless on offense. Costa, Coman and Lahm have also been bad in the first half, effin knew you need Müller with his unpredictable style vs Atletico's defense. Speed is useless vs Atletico.

    Oh well, time for another "Should've started these guys, never too late to sub them in" moment.
     
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    Three Spanish players on Bayern's side were involved in that goal. Thiago, Alonso, Bernat. In the end, that led to Alaba being exposed and the scorer came through Alaba's weak side.

    If we score, it will be in this phase now. But we have to be careful, they can counter well.
     
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    Damn... that away goal was definitely possible. Bayern were much better in the second half.

    We can beat anybody at Munich, I'm just afraid our defense isn't stable enough to keep Atletico from scoring, so we might need three.
     
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    I think it will be 1-1 or 2-1 for Bayern, and we will be out.
     
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    Can see us somehow winning 2:0 next week.
     
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    Re-watching the goal and the Spanish guys lifting their hands instead of attacking was really annoying.
     
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    Saw that, especially Bernat was still in position but completely stopped defending.
     
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    ATW, is your opinion common amongst fans? I'm in England right now and they seem to think of Pep as the second coming - literally it seems they believe the title is guaranteed for Manchester City. Am wondering if Bayern fans are generally happy he's leaving or if they feel like like they're losing a large chunk of the reason for their recent success.
     
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    I only state my opinion

    JG is a good enough coach, he was instrumental to couple of Barca's titles and Bayern ones, no denying that

    however he is stubborn, has his own weird agendas.

    In BPL if Ranieri can win it, Pep can too, but it aint a gimme.
     
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    I'd say 3/4 are glad he's leaving and really question his approach and formations. Him insisting on playing the Spanish guys, no matter how many terrible games they have in a row, and leaving out the German players has many fans baffled/questioning his bias.
    Pep also had a ton of games with weird starting XIs that didn't deliver and then subbed in the guys that every fan would've started. In many of those cases, we unnecessarily lost games or barely escaped with a draw/win.

    One of his biggest weaknesses is not adapting to the opponent, especially with the extremely high defensive line and slow build-up. It works vs mediocre opponents, but the CL games have shown again and again that this strategy fails vs teams like Barca and Real. The CL losses in the last two years were on him and he didn't use the roster as he should have, so a lot of us feel disappointed after the Heynckes triple and think Pep didn't deliver.

    People also don't like that Pep never seems honest in interviews (basically everyone is his favourite player and the best he ever had, even the ones he never plays) and how he handles players, especially Götze and (in knockout games) Müller. How he treated the medical unit left a bad taste in everyone's mouth, what he did to Müller-Wohlfahrt and the staff is pathetic and reeks of arrogance.

    Of course you'll have some Bayern fans saying he's the best coach on the planet and they feel sad he's gone soon, their main point being how we developed the possession-style and tactical variability (true to an extent, but we seem worse than in the Heynckes era in crucial games).

    Regarding City fans: Bayern fans felt the same prior to Pep arriving and thought we'd basically win everything and be the most dominant team in Europe. But when he coaches your team, you'll soon see questionable decisions and realize that Pep isn't the god-like coach he's said to be.
     

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