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Southwest sees speaking Arabic as a threat - kicks man off flight

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    Seriously. We disagree a lot, but we don't resort to insulting the intelligence of the people we debate with in every post - which is why I respect you as a poster. I mean why debate with people who are actually idiots?

    Anyway, yes - there is an anti-intellectualism by people claiming to have intellects but they can't seem to comprehend that someone with a liberal arts degree often are the ones who go into business and outschool the guys with those Wharton MBA's.
     
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  2. Cohete Rojo

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    You have a problem answering questions [see the winter watch thread]. So I'll repeat as clear as possible: what would you have done if you were in the flight crew's shoes?
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    The answer is obvious, but it doesn't fit the narrative, so it'll be interesting to see if he attempts to spin some BS or if he just ignores the question.

    Obviously just about any reasonable person in that situation would have followed protocol and done exactly what the crew did because if it turned out to be something serious, you'd hate to be the person that ignored the warning that led to people getting hurt.
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You mean your non-sensical questions of utter incoherency?

    If a passenger felt uncomfortable about another passenger I would ask them why. If they had no evidence that the person was a terrorist I'd kick them off the plane for being a racist idiot.

    By the way, the flight crew of another Southwest flight kicks a woman off a plane for switching seats. They don't even assign seats! Oh, of course the woman was wearing a hijab which made the flight attendant "uncomfortable"

    Why not just stop brown people from flying all together? That would clearly end the threat!

    I mean, we all know that a real terrorist is going to talk in Arabic on his cell phone about how he is about to martyr himself just to make things interesting.
     
  5. DudeWah

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    His posts about education seem to have a very warped view.

    There's lots of very important fields that aren't stem related.
     
  6. Cohete Rojo

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    Just answer the question or continue to show your true colors.
     
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    Is the answer you're looking for doing a personal search, a plane wide search, evicting the individual and subjecting them to interrogation for Arabic words that may or may not have been uttered? Because "established procedures".

    Your question gets stupider the more anybody looks at it, and this is in a thread filled with people who have had mush for ideas.

    And what ****ing colours? Sign me up for those true colours if it gets away from your thought process.
     
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  8. Cohete Rojo

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    I already told you what I would have done. If your memory or inability to Ctrl + F or use the thread "search" tool is that lacking - then I feel bad for you, on a personal level.
     
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    I don't give a **** what you would have done--you've proven you can't reason beyond being a narrowly tailored yet panicky robot. It's more the answers you're trying to pry out of people and this dumb **** "true colours" nonsense--the lowlight of a thread about nothing.

    I don't think this thread topic is even worth talking about but the staggering ability for you to ignore reason is surprising even to me. The "established" procedures are received wisdom. If you can't question the inherent disproportional logic in them and the irrational biases that trigger it, that's on you, but don't take divulgence from your illogic to be anything more than the intelligence it is.
     
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    Told ya he'd spin some BS since the obvious answer doesn't fit the narrative he wants to push.

    An Arab woman comes to him and says that a passenger is saying things that make her nervous and he says he'd kick her off the plane for telling him that because she's racist. That's the kind of brain dead nonsense you get from that alter ego.
     
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    How do you know she was Arab? Maybe she took an Arabic class in college. Maybe she was from North Africa.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varieties_of_Arabic

    Some varieties of Arabic in North Africa, for example, are incomprehensible to an Arabic speaker from the Levant or the Persian Gulf.

    “Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety.”
     
  12. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I did, guess you didn't bother to read.

    How do you know she was an Arab woman? I didn't see anything posted about her race or background. Only that she claimed she spoke "arabic" but nothing about how fluent she was or if she was Arab herself - which is weird because Arabic does not equal Arabia.
     
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    Because all the people who speak "terrorist" sit together. :rolleyes:
     
  14. Cohete Rojo

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    Are you serious? Your would berate the passenger by asking them to explain again why they feel uncomfortable? Furthermore, what evidence do you have of racist behavior?

    Like I said, please answer the question I put forth, not whatever convoluted question you posed for yourself.
     
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    He has about as much evidence for racism as you have for terrorism.

    So if you think it's ridiculous the woman gets kicked off--

    please proceed, governor
     
  16. Cohete Rojo

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    When did I say I have any evidence of terrorism, and what does that have to do with his lack of or possession of evidence of racism? Please start supporting your claims or go back to the heat lamps.
     
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    there should be a system in place to wateraboared suspects on air-planes, that's will elevate security level and minmize flights delay
     
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    ^ Could you kindly enumerate what threat you implied here that would require a plane-wide search and a post-flight interrogation? And if there is none, why are you applauding somebody for not reasoning?

    Was it the threat of bad Arabic poetry? Or something else?

    Thanks in advance.

    Also, while we're on the topic, if you want to post passive-aggressive takes, do them here in the open and not in my private reputation. ;)
     
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    Because being an Arab means you speak Arabic as your first language. It's not really a race of people, it's a linguistic bond. There is a cultural or ethnic component but Iranians are not Arabs because they speak Farsi, not because they are so racially, ethnically, or culturally different from their neighbors.

    Now it's possible that she wasn't a native speaker, but it's just funny that without any actual reason to believe it, you assume that somehow she was racist because that's the only way you can push the preferred narrative of this alter ego of yours.

    Now sticking to the actual facts of the incident, we do know that she was an Arabic speaker, and I know that some Arabs consider the way Iraqis speak Arabic hard to understand so maybe she just misheard him. Either way, whatever she thought he said made her nervous enough to speak out and then the airline employees simply followed established protocol.....which was the right thing to do.
     
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    So a passenger (We will call #1) was on a plane speaking Arabic before departure.

    Another passenger (we will call #2) on the plane could speak Arabic and claimed that passenger #1 was making comments in Arabic that were in some way threatening.

    The Southwest pilot and representative exercised their discretion and removed passenger #1 from the flight.

    The FBI was called, investigated and released passenger #1.

    Southwest refunded passenger #1's flight cost, and he took at flight to his destination on another airline.

    I don't really see any negligence here.

    Southwest did what they are supposed to do. They are not going to hold up an entire flight while they investigate the matter.

    The airline industry also does not allow people that have removed from a flight to use the same airline within 24 hours.
     
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