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[ClutchFans] How Golden State gets so wide open

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Apr 17, 2016.

  1. Jake Tower

    Jake Tower Member

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    This is hilarious. Fox News is the same as MSNBC/CNN. They are all the controlled opposition of each other.
     
  2. bballjunkie

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    Your reaction is what the NBA is risking by allowing teams like GS to get away with this style of play. People will stop watching the games if this continues. No one wants to see teams win by 20 or 30 points all the time. People want there to be some element of competitiveness.
     
  3. davidxhz

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    From the NBA rulebook:

    “A player who sets a screen shall not … (4) move laterally or toward an opponent being screened, after having assumed a legal position. The screener may move in the same direction and path of the opponent being screened. In (3) above, the speed of the opponent being screened will determine what the screener’s stationary position may be. This position will vary and may be one to two normal steps or strides from his opponent.”

    seems to me that most of the screen people deem moving screen here is allowed because they are moving in the same direction the defender is moving
     
  4. Kiddsir

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    How about every time when facing Bogut screen, we accidently hit his side knee and flop ground???
     
  5. topfive

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    Someone I know compared what the Warriors do with screens to the Seahawks defensive backfield, who are notorious for pushing the limits of the rules with their constant physical play and relying on the refs only calling some of those infractions. The big difference is that the refs DO call the Seahawks DBs pretty often.

    It's crazy that is that many of the Warriors fans are also 49ers fans who have been screaming in agony over how the Seahawks DBs cheat every play and the refs ignore it.
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  6. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    Does the rule book include anything about extending an arm bar or elbow against the defender, or grabbing a jersey? Haha.
     
  7. Duncan McDonuts

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    The problem is that the Warriors don't move because of contact with the defender. They continue to shuffle backwards in the defender's path despite the defender trying to move around the screen or they will hold the the defender's arms and wrap the defender's body.

    It's so illegal but never called. It's how Golden State gets at least 5 feet of separation every time.
     
  8. bmd

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    What that is saying is that the person setting the screen is allowed to move when he gets hit in the direction that he gets hit. He can't be expected to be a brick wall that doesn't move.

    If you take a hit, you may stumble backwards a bit, and that is fine.

    What Bogut is doing is very clearly not just taking a step or two to keep his balance. He's purposely walking backwards to stop the opponent from getting around him.
     
  9. Houstunna

    Houstunna Mr Graphix
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    Similar to the Seahawks in football.

    Their DBs pass interfere every play and dare the officials to call it.

    Hopefully something happens to the Warriors... not officiating-wise, but injury-wise.

    Hopefully Curry gets injured. F*** the Warriors.
     
  10. phantoman

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    I just dont get why we arent doing the same thing.. if the NBA is league of trends as it is... why dont we do it. if everyone does this and the league doesnt like it - they will change the rules... ie: hackadwight. It is such a good tactic if it is legal.
     
  11. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Watch the Bogut play. We did the same thing the very next play and got called for a foul, the Rockets aren't allowed to set moving screens.
     
  12. jerrios

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    It would be awesome if the Rockets or someone gave out signs that said "Illegal Screen" on one side and instructions to raise the sign every time we see an illegal screen during games 3 and 4.

    I'd be willing to put down $1000 to have the signs done and handed out at the arena and if anyone else wants to match.

    I bet that would catch the attention of the league real quick when you see these signs pop up during live TV.
     
  13. JMAD21

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    That is absolute pathetic! They're cheating and the NBA is just letting them!
     
  14. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I was just listening to local Bay Area radio (KNBR, "Murph and Mac" show). The hosts are total homers, of course, but they had local sports writer Scott Ostler on for an interview. It was kind of interesting.

    Ostler said very bluntly that the Warriors get away with a LOT of illegal screens, setting out exactly how Bogut (moving his feet constantly) and Green (often using his arms "like an NFL player") get away with an unbelievable amount of leeway on their screens. The hosts fell quiet, but Ostler went on. "If the NBA decided to really crack down on that, I could see it costing the Warriors a couple of games at some point. We'll see if it matters."

    The hosts then asked him, "well, doesn't it seem like the Rockets might be out to hurt Steph?"

    Ostler said, "I'm not saying the Rockets are that likable or full of nice guys, but I've seen no evidence of any of them trying to hurt Steph Curry, and I doubt they'd try something like that moving forward either."

    Then, at the close of the interview, they all agree that the Rockets are the hardest to watch team in the playoffs, by far, and they felt sorry for any Rockets fan anywhere. Seriously, there was sincere pity, and rightly so. LOL.
     
  15. jerrios

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    Anyone down?
     
  16. bballjunkie

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    It's because we get called for those kind of fouls as do most teams. If Dwight did what Bogut did he'd foul out in about 5 minutes. The refs have clearly allowed GS to get away with moving screens. They've gotten away with it for two years running. They are a good team without the illegal screens so letting them get away with it is just tarnishing the league in general. If the NBA thinks it's fun watching 20 and 30 point blowouts they are in for a rude awakening when fans stop caring.
     
  17. dkamberi25

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    Between the moving screens and the loose ball fouls they get away with/get in their favor on both ends of the court its going to be impossible to win this series.
     
  18. Roxnostalgia

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    FIFY.
     
  19. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Yeah, that sequence was brutal. And it is why the Rockets bench got as angry and animated as it did to the point of assistants trying to hold back players.

    Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.

     
  20. Bo6

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    im in the camp that we should set moving screens as well. like really balant ones.


    and if we get called for it multiple times then great. we will get blown out by 50. i'm the NBA doesn't want the rockets to lose by 50 in every game. that's not a very good product.
     

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