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Better Call Saul Season 2

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by dandorotik, Jan 23, 2016.

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  1. Duncan McDonuts

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    I agree it was important, but we didn't need 7 episodes to get there. That arc could've easily been over with by 2 episodes earlier. Instead, we get a long drawn out 2/3s of a season, and then the big, dramatic finale where everyone forgives the slowness of the beginning.

    Season 1 wasn't that slow. Season 2 was, and it was a chore to watch.
     
  2. Agent94

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    Kim liked it when she and Jimmy conned a couple of people. She seems to have flexible morals. She is just afraid those things are going to come back and bite her. Jimmy seems to be more reckless and impulsive. She is glad he did it, but wants him to cover his ass.
     
  3. K-Low_4_Prez

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    I think the show is supposed to be slow... You are watching a man completely change just like how Walter turned into Heisenberg. It should feel like you are slowly seeing it develop and before you even realize it the transformation is complete.

    I have really enjoyed both seasons and I was very skeptical about how they were going to pull it off.
     
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    Yes Kim is coming over to the dark side but I expect you will see here return to her high horse and it will cause a major falling out between her and jimmy. It could in fact be coming soon over the whole Chuck freaking dying thing.
     
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    Great episode. Slippin' Chuck too soon?
     
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    How would him indirectly killing his brother due to his shady tactics push him to become more shady? Chuck will live.
     
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    Was it ever mentioned Gus had a son? I did always wonder why a black guy had a Hispanic name, Ernesto. Makes sense with Gustavo. I just don't recall anything in BB that alluded to Gus having a family.
     
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    I'm thinking he try's to make Jimmy Mcgill disappear by becoming Saul.. Not really sure tbh.

    But Chuck is for sure dying in this show so now seems like the time to me. But maybe he pulls thru
     
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    Would be a tad cheesy and a little too convenient if Ernie was somehow related to Gus. Would also provide Saul with a clear contact to Gus... Something he never ever implied in BB.

    Chances are, there can be more than one dark skinned character with a Latino heritage, and they somehow not be related in this show's universe.
     
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    There are thousands of black latinos with spanish names. Not uncommon at all, especially on the east coast.
     
  11. Uprising

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    Great episode. Really had a breaking bad feel to it.
     
  12. dandorotik

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    I'm a moderator on a BCS Facebook fan page- believe me, a number of people thought Season 1 was slow. So did a number about Season 2. Usually, with those people- not all, but most- they really want it to be like Breaking Bad- same number of deaths, etc. And their biggest thrill is when a BB character shows up in BCS. Not all- but most.

    And it's just not planned that way. The people who created this wanted to veer away at first from some of the visceral violence in the other show- they wanted to create drama without too much blood being shed- at least in the beginning.

    I would agree a bit, though- and I think it stems from the fact that the creators and writers really liked the Jimmy character and wanted to prolong him turning into Saul. You have to be careful about that if you get too enamored over a character- they want to show he was a less amoral person at first- but now, they probably need to segueway him into the Saul character- no matter how much they like the one, the show is called Better Call Saul for a reason- and I think that, if they're going to have about 4-5 seasons (I can't see them having more than BB), you have to transform him in Season 3 so the Jimmy/Saul story is evenly split. Just my take, anyway.
     
  13. Duncan McDonuts

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    There doesn't have to be dramatic deaths like in Breaking Bad. They can do wonderful drama like they already have without bloodshed. But Saul has to be Saul.

    I didn't think season one was slow at all. The legal gymnastics Jimmy did against Tuco early in the season was very entertaining to start the show off. Then Kettleman arc kickstarted signs of Saul in Jimmy and intersects the story with Mike. The rest of the season focuses on Jimmy becoming a respectable lawyer, only for Chuck to crush his dreams. I thought season one was well done.

    Season two spent too much time on Jimmy vs. Saul. The important arc elements were Kim convincing Saul to be Jimmy, not fitting in with his new job, making the commercial and causing friction at the office, him being babysat, and then finding his way out with the signing bonus. Five defining points for Jimmy to give up trying to be straight and transition into Saul, which each could've been one episode. Instead, it took seven for us to get to that point.

    I get that the writers wanted to end the season at this point, but I would've enjoyed entertaining filler over slow, drawn out episodes and montages.
     
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    They make up for around half a percent of the U.S. Population. That's pretty uncommon. 2 Black Hispanics in Albuquerque, NM on the same show, with similar dressing style and mannerisms (before we really new Gus) not being related? 0.00000001% chance.
     
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    I do not think he is such a weirdo. He just deals with his inner demons in a space blanket.

    Unfortunately we still are short on the flashback episode when Chuck is starting his syndrome. How he came to be that weird character.

    About his relationship to Jim, Saul or Gene. Chuck is just a douche inside.
    He does not tolerate his little brother, does not show any love nor respect, belittles him like Shaq when talking about Howard.
     
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    both Hank and Chuck are douches. Too much sympathy for them.
     
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    Also, Mike won't get caught, he'll have a plan.

    The rule of the BB universe are that Mike is a forever badass unless its Walt he's confronting (since Walt effs everything up anyways)
     
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    Just watched it last night. Fantastic episode. Almost too good. I felt worried for Jimmy in real life. Like, I felt uneasy. Usually I feel nothing when watching TV, so I liked it. Well done, BCS. Well done.
     
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    lots of people with african ancestry in latin america and especially south america, where gus is from.
     
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    Great episode and unlike a lot of you, have loved this season as much as Season 1.

    I don't expect this show to be Breaking Bad redux...it is a different show and while it isn't Breaking Bad amazing, neither are 99% of the shows ever made so I am enjoying it greatly for what it is...
     

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