In 2008, I was an Obama supporter. I believe at that time, had she won the nomination, I would probably have voted for her in the general election. In 2012 I wrote in a candidate to vote for. I will say that I probably wasn't as adamantly against her in 2008 as I am now.
She has more votes than trump, sanders, and Cruz. She has a lot of supporters. Do people really want change. We have fairly low unemployment. Our economy is better than the rest of the world. Do we really need that much of a change?
I hadn't noticed but you're right. We have dedicated threads that have been running for months on the other 3. The closest we have for Clinton is the one about the investigation of her email server. Funny. Congress managed to kill all the hope, but actually a lot changed because we elected Obama. Some things, regrettably, stayed the same like the drone war and spying on our own citizens, but there is tons of stuff that would not have happened had McCain won in 2008.
She has rational policies that have solid logical and empirical backing - can anybody else in the race claim the same? It's not the kind of thing you're going ot cheer-lead about, nobody's going to start making posters of her that say "RATIONAL" but - it's an area in which she trounces the competition, and is why ultimately she is most likely to win.
Hillary is somebody that has failed at every stop in her career. She has an awful track record, and is an unlikable person. Her appeal to some is 1) her last name is Clinton and 2) she's a woman, and probably most importantly 3) she's "not Sanders" and "not Trump"
I am liberal, a supporter of Senator Sanders and I can't stand her. The recent type of campaign she has been launching has me seriously considering Cruz or even Trump in the general. And Trump wants to ban me from reentering the country if I went on vacation while Cruz wants to patrol my neighborhood (though I live in a white area so I should be fine). I myself am agnostic and against organized religion but I am of Pakistani ancestry. What she represents is everything I dislike about politics. She has no values, her views change constantly depending on the electorate. She is dishonest, a fraud and a phony. She is shady, a warmonger. She is corrupt and deeply indebted to special interests. And she just comes off as smug. I can't vote for her. I don't trust her and I don't know where she stands on anything because of how it is constantly changing.
Yeah, makes sense. Cruz is everything you hate about Hillary plus diametrically opposed to a "liberal" on every issue imaginable. Big things are at stake. Lives are at stake, as the 2000 election clearly showed. Do what you want, but I'd ask younger viewers and voters to seriously consider not intentionally harming the country.
Save your energy, dear friend, our boy BleedRocketsRed has played this lame-o game-o before: He's so liberal, he can't even spell Mitt Romney's name before voting for him. Oh and this one's even better:
I'd vote for Bill, definitely. Hilldog? Probably not. I'd elect not to vote if it is between her and the Zodiac killer.
Choosing not to vote, even for the lesser of two evils, is just letting the other idiots choose for you.
I was disappointed because I did feel betrayed. He sold out. His health insurance system gave more money and more power to the crooked insurance companies and screwed millions of people over by forcing them to purchase poor coverage which they can't afford. It had some good but also some bad and I feel that the negatives outweigh the positives. I did not feel that it fixed the issue of people being unable to afford decent coverage. As somebody who wants a single payer system, I felt like he set us in the absolute wrong direction. The second quote was just saying that if he didn't release pics Osama's body, then there would be conspiracy theorists believing Osama was not dead (in a movement similar to the ridiculous birther movement). I was wrong about that.
Yes, super liberal like tea party members probably. It is like a person is so liberal that he/she went to the other side and became a super conservative. :grin:
I have been somewhere between satisfied and pleased. I don't feel suckered at all. If you want to talked "suckered" talk about "small government" republicans and their deficit, invasion into personal choice, and promotion of corporate control. It's oxymoronic.
Anyone that is a Democrat is by default a Hillary supporter. They don't REALLY support Hillary because she's a terrible candidate, but they'll support her because she's winning the Democratic nomination and that's all that matters to them. That said, I'm voting for her if Trump gets the Republican nomination.
THIS!! I can not understand why anyone would refuse to vote. It might be a personal choice, but it is stupidity personified. I would choose Hillary over Sanders, but if Sanders were to win the nomination I wouldn't be a baby and say "!@#$ him, I'm not voting". As Dubious stated, that is just letting the other idiots choose for you. And I am tired of idiots voting in crazies (read teabaggers) who always threaten to do nothing when they don't get their way.
It won't be worse, the choices that exist are the legitimate choices. Daydreaming about a better system can start after the election. I imagine most democrats would prefer a more inspiring candidate than Ms. Clinton and most republicans are embarrassed with their party altogether.
