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Better Call Saul Season 2

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by dandorotik, Jan 23, 2016.

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  1. RunninRaven

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    I'm pretty sure that hose is going to be used as a spike strip (similar to what police use) to disable that drug truck sometime after it crosses the border. I'm not entirely sure what he plans to do with it after that. Maybe take the drugs and sell them elsewhere? I can see that being how he ends up meeting Gus, which really needs to happen this season for timeline purposes.

    And I'm pretty sure Salamanca is in the wheelchair because of some disease (MS?), not because of anything anyone did to him. There's not going to be some big "reveal" there.
     
  2. kevC

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    My BB details are a little hazy, but when Saul introduces Walter to Gus, it's through "a guy who knows a guy". Is it safe to assume that the first "guy" in this is Mike? I don't remember if that was ever confirmed in BB. If so, the expectation is that Mike will meet and be associated with Gus in this series, more or less separate from Saul right? Why is this show even called "Better Call Saul", if that's the case? A Mike/Gus storyline would be so much more interesting than anything Saul will be involved in.
     
  3. heypartner

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    The only reason I remember this is because I looked it up earlier in this thread. Mike was introduced to BB as "The Cleaner" when Jesse's girlfriend overdoses. His character wasn't actually even part of the plot. Saul was supposed to go "clean up" the situation for Walt and Jesse, but Bob Odenkirk was not available for filming the scene, so they invented Mike's role. Because how great the character was, they decided to expand his role in the show. So a lot of Mike's character was made up on the fly.

    That was Season 2 when Walt also met Gus. Not sure which came first, but it probably doesn't matter. It's known that Saul knows Mike -- uses him as a PI and "cleaner".

    fwiw: remember, there was no actual introduction to Gus. They were just told to go the fried chicken restaurant and wait. The first "meeting," Gus didn't show up, but in reality he was watching them from behind the counter.
     
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    Pure speculation or do you have something to back that up? I wouldn't be surprised if it was Mike who put him in that wheelchair after Salamanca threatened that girl.
     
  5. heypartner

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    I'd say it's more speculation to consider it an accident than a muscular disease or stroke. Do you have something to back up your accident theory?

    Sure, there is no real proof it wasn't an accident, but the fact he can't speak and the apparent muscle degeneration in his movement always seemed more from a disease/stroke vs becoming a paraplegic from a head and spinal injury.

    Here's an explanation from his character page on the BB wikia

    http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/Hector_"Tio"_Salamanca

    You can also see him shaking in BCS.
     
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    I remember Saul sorta warning Walt about Gus... how he was extremely careful and extremely picky about who he did business with.

    I'd be surprised if Saul never meets Gus at some point.
     
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    Ernie looks like Gustavo
     
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    And, though we know that Gus has a family, we never see any of them in Breaking Bad. If Ernie ends up being Gus' son, serious rep to you.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
  10. Rocket River

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    My GUESSES

    The More I think about it . . . I think this maybe true.
    I also think that Mike will need protection himself . . . .. . . . ENTER GUS
    I think their relationship is mutually beneficial
    I think Gus does business like Mike likes to do business
    But I think Gus has the one thing Mike lacks. . . Resources
    The Vet might put them in touch with each other



    I think Jimmy and Kim will end up in business together
    I also think that SHE WILL BE THE REASON HE CANNOT USE HIS OWN NAME
    not his brother.

    She will find out and basically sue to not have his name associate with her

    Rocket River
     
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    I am thinking that Gus puts him in the wheel chair .. . maybe on Mike's behalf

    Rocket River
     
  12. dandorotik

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    Saul is still involved in some mixed-up ****. Remember, when Walt and Jesse take him out in the desert, he says, "Did Ignacio send you?" Ignacio is Nacho's full name, and Michael Mando was told that his character will be around close to the time when Walt and Jesse meet Saul. He might have been killed right around the exact same time they meet Saul (and Saul doesn't know Nacho was killed), or he might still be alive. They only told him that Nacho is somehow involved with Saul.

    So, it may be that Saul is involved with laundering Nacho's money, and Mike does hook up with Gus, but independent of Saul, yet Saul retains Mike's services for cleaning up after ODs or wire-tapping 308 Negra Arroyo Lane.

    But it's called Better Call Saul b/c Saul is the last man standing. He survives Mike, he survives Gus, he survives Hector, and he survives Walter White.

    The final episode of the BCS series will most likely be Gene in Nebraska, either returning to ABQ or maybe doing something in Omaha. But in spite of the admittedly more interesting storyline with Mike, that storyline will end, Saul's will continue, and he will be the central figure.

    Kind of like Seinfeld- is there anyone who really feels Jerry was the most interesting character among those 4?
     
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    You are absolutely right- Mike has to connect with Gus b/c if he pulls something with Hector and his operation, he'll send the twins to the daughter-in-law's house. Remember, Mike did his research and found out about Nacho's external dealings prior to his protection job with Mr. Cobbler Squatter. So, it's very likely that Mike also does his research and finds out "someone" who he can work with that will give him and his family protection against the cartel. And Gus is the one who called off the twins from killing WW, so Gus has pull.
     
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    Slippin' Jimmy slipping bogus cut-and-paste address numbered copied files into Chuck's files.

    That was pretty funny. Reminded me of how they made fake IDs back in the day at flea markets. God, those were some awful fake IDs. But, they did work on occassion at the local Quickie Mart. Hee hee.
     
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    Actually, it's a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy. But maybe he just threw the extra guy in there to make it more separate. I'm sure Saul asks Mike about Gus.
     
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    Or like how Wonder Woman's story was the most interesting in Better Call Batman and Superman
     
  17. dandorotik

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    Schnauz is one of the main writers for both BB and BCS:

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  18. dandorotik

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    Exactly- who do you remember: Clarice Starling or Hannibal Lecter?
     
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    It's fun trying to piece things together with the little hints dropped here and there. Chuck obviously didn't have his disorder while he had a wife. Salamanca with the wheelchair. Mikes connection to Gus. Where do Kim and Nacho go. What will put Jimmy over the edge? The opening scene in this episode was sublime.

    I've enjoyed this season more than last. The storytelling has been better as has the scene construction though I did like the one where Hamlin basically told Jimmy he wasn't getting a job through the drone of the copier in season 1. Neither Odenkirk nor Banks have had Emmy level performances like they did in the first season though.
     
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    Was expecting this episode to pick up the pace but jimmy and kims story is taking too much space for one episode! Its not that there story isnt entertaining, its just they are stretching it out too much!
     

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