Now webster this was probably before you were born. Long Long ago in the late 1960's early 1970's probably about the time your parents became adults college tuition in California and NY was free for many students and the minimum wage had about $11-$12 dollars at least in today's purchasing power. Many folks including my 8 brothers and sisters could work there way through TX colleges without borrowing hardly anything at all. PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THIS DID NOT HELP THEM HUSTLE TO BETTER THEMSELVES. PS: I know Fox has not informed you of this.
Cali, for the working class, is about family and familiarity at this point. It's not a place to move to unless you get that affluent paying job. Then again so is Northern VA, DC, MD area. I remain because my parents properties were purchased back in the 80s and I grew up here.
Poor Webster. Doesn't know any better. Fox and the right has misinformed him. In the 1970's, before he was were born I had 7 brothers and sisters work their way through UT Austin and what is now called Tech State. Tuition was close to free and minimum wage at jobs like McDonald's paid what is now about $12 or maybe even $15/hr in todays wages. They graduated with virtually not student loans. HEY , WEBSTER AKS RUSH TO EXPLAIN TO YOU EXPLAIN HOW THIS DID NOT ENCOURAGE HUSTILING TO BETTER ONE'S SELF.
Ah absolutes FTW! Come on now. What worked ~50 years ago might not work today. It's worth a careful analysis and careful decision making. Period. (What didn't work in the late nineteenth century isn't keeping a bunch of people from trying to return to the Gilded Age, for example, even though others of us think it's butt stupid.)
The next 10-15 years will be painful as jobs from all industries will be automated, but we function as a services economy and if we are doomed, it's not from lack of quality jobs. I read some fluffy piece about the "post-work society" from either the Atlantic or Slate about how there would be a "dreamer" class where instead of working, they'd sit on their asses gratifying themselves with smug gestures of art and self effusing flatulence (okay maybe not word for word). Work would be a choice... That writer's ideal came from the concept of improving the quality of life, but there's a strong assumption of himself and from his intended readers of entitlement and privilege that I doubt everyone shares or can afford. There's a lot to fix and areas to provide value that can't yet be automated. Reversing ecological devastation and improving overall global life can't be solved through technological innovation. It's a social problem and a choice people need to buy into in their social contract. Society doesn't have to progress into the bookend of Das Capital. It can, but it's not necessary to worry about one possible future of many unknown others.
This made me laugh because this already exists in droves. It's called the many welfare recipients that literally live like this. Some for generations.
Hey honey why does it still smell like **** in here? Well you either took a dump or farted then when upstairs or outside came back and forgot about. Oh. LOL
As we get more and more automated We will reach a point where Computers, Robotics and automation will be doing most of the work Where literally a majority of the people will not have to work or simply have no jobs that they can do better than a robot/automation What will we do then? Rocket River
PS First someone that isn't upper middle class that decides to move to California is a fool. There isn't a lot of opportunity for the poorly educated or the working class. The state has had generations of blue loving restrictions and rules that are not beneficial to the poor or those barely making it. I am not a fan of doubling or tripling the minimum wage as some are. Having said that, $15 an hour in a majority of the state of California will still leave you in poverty. I supposed a couple that each work 40-50 hours a week could half ass raise a family where the children are latch key children and the parents are reasonably frugal.
That's the real apocalypse. The gun fanatics have it right. Load up on ammunition and weapons to go on "runs" into the Trillionaire gated cities to get supplies and resources. As the 0.5 percenters use their "terminators" to keep us out. This what will truly happen and the super rich know it. Thank Mr Trump and his A-Hole peers. They will bring on the true "Apocalypse"
You could do the same thing today, and if you were paying your own way on minimum wage you would receive federal Pell grant and go to school for free. Pell not covering it, well you get the American Opportunity Tax Credit.
I'm a baffled CF member, for I know not what you mean. Science and compound interest will lead to 15-hour work weeks - enough for us to live "wisely and agreeably". There you go , from the most quoted economist of the Great Depression Era.
I thought that reference was out of left field, but whatever. He lived a similar life through investing in the market and earning interest in his gains. Maybe it's possible for all middle class people. Some are doing it now
Yes, and what they thought might work 35 years ago when they started cutting taxes on the rich and raising them on the poor and middle class hasn't worked at all. It is far past time to reverse that trend.
Bullsh!t. Spend a month "living" on welfare and document how often you "sit on [your] ass[es] gratifying [yourself] with smug gestures of art and self effusing flatulence." You've swallowed the bullsh!t they're feeding you and now you seem to be asking for more. You're not smelling "self effusing flatulence," it is the stench from Bullsh!t Mountain.
And when you find that neither pays for college, you take on debt because the baby boomers decided to loot the treasury instead of making sure that future generations would have the same opportunities that they did.
