Pakistan suicide blast kills over 60 as Christian families gathered in the park to celebrate Easter

islamphobia and white knighting islam hate.

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Prayers for both the muslims, christians and person of any faith who lost their life. Too often we get caught up in stratifying people because some aspects are more relatable than others. The fact is that a coward from a coward organization spewing ignorance and hatred succeeded in his cowardly act. The punishment for these actions from the Taliban need to swift, heavy, and merciless.

 

Can't take this fool IBTL seriously. He mailed me through the board several times some time ago. Total weirdo.

 

Which I never denied. See, no one, even ATW, denies that there are political and socioeconomic angles except maybe Rocketslegend but I hope no one actually takes him seriously. There are posters here who are stating that it has NOTHING to do with Islam.

 

You do know that every time these asinine comparisons are bought up is because a Islamic apologist ALWAYS goes there: "But xxx also does it too". Only because we have the audacity to put some blame on the religious ideology that motivates many of these ****ers.

How dare we criticize an ideology. How dare we criticize a belief system that praises the morality of a man who held sex slaves, assassinated people just because they were vocal with their dissenting opinion of him, raided villages that disagreed with him 'preemptively' and ****ed a 9 year old. How dare we critisize an ideology that advocates death for leaving said ideology. How dare we criticize an ideology that that believes a woman should be 'submissive' to their husband. How dare we criticize a religion that has no concept of statutory rape or spousal rape. How dare we devolve a conversation about Islamic terrorists into Islam and why it's a **** religion.

 

They list Islam as the primary problem. ATW has never mentioned anything but Islam. He pounds that for the last 7 years.

Don't tell me that the primary target from yalls perspective isn't Islam itself. It is.

The difference is that you say it's Islam that is the problem, and I say it's the issue of a mix of religion, historical militarization of extremist segments and politics to gain power, and that it's more about any kind of belief system can be used to justify violence. The problem is that the U.S. and the UK militarized extremists and empowered them to fight the soviets and in doing so unleashed the genie - not that Islam spontaneously leads to suicide bombings.

 

No it just leads to a draconian culture that devalues the life of the kaffir.

 

To be clear, I don't subscribe to any religion. My views are my own. To lump all Muslims together with the jihadists responsible for these acts of terror is no different from one lumping together all Christians with the mad people in this country who have committed acts of terror in the name of the Christian religion over the years. In my humble opinion. Both religions have their extremists who act against the modern tenets of their faith. Currently, the Jihadists are far more numerous, organized, and active. That's obvious. It's no surprise that they are getting more press coverage. Both religion's extremists are very dangerous, however.

 

So when did I lump all Muslims with terrorists?

 

I suggest that you reread your own post. You know, the one I was replying to, and see if you can figure out why I would get that impression.

 

The only one who did that was New Yorker. Maybe one particular Trump supporter as well. Nobody else did.

 

criticizing an ideology != lumping all Muslims together with Jihadists

 

How would you know, I am on ignore!!!!

 

I sometimes click on view post - it's like watching a sad clown stabbing himself to death, you know.

 

Yes, you are saying Islam leads to a draconian culture - and yet you say you don't lump all Muslims together. You're splicing words here. If you condemn Islam, you are condemning it's followers.

You and ATW need to stop pretending that you do anything else.

 

Is that why you stalk me on LinkedIn and post my place of work on here too?

You need to end your unhealthy obsession with New Yorker from 10 years ago. They have good mental health clinics in Germany. Or maybe they don't considering that GermanWings pilot.

 

I prefer the use of the word Jihadist to describe terrorists who are committing acts of terror "in the name of Islam." The use of words with "Islam" in them is confusing, in my opinion. It is very easy to conflate "Islam, Islamic, Islamist," when what is really being discussed are Jihadists. Yeah, I'm being a parser of words here, ATW, but words matter. The more distance we place between those fanatics who are jihadists "in the name of Islam" with the overwhelming majority of Muslims who are ordinary people attempting to live their lives, the better, in my opinion.

 

This distance would have to exist. In many cases, it does. In many cases, it does not.

You don't place the distance. Either it exists or it doesn't.

And as the Pew polls show, there are hundreds of millions of Muslims who share the Jihadists' views on death penalty for apostasy, on wanting to make Sharia the law of the land, on death penalty for gays, etc. etc. Have you seen the polls of what percentage of Muslims in France and other European countries supports ISIS?

Sadly, that is the reality. Pretending it is not does not make that reality go away - on the contrary, appeasement is considered weakness, and strengthens their resolve.

 

I agree wholeheartedly and this is such a great post Deck. You've really articulated what the issue is. That everyone agrees that Islamic Extremism aka Jihadists are a serious problem. But people like ATW want to go further and say the problem aren't jihadists the problem is Islam and the Jihadist are just following the book. It's such a disservice to 100's of millions of Muslims who detest violence.