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Ty Lawson: "Hell yeah. I wanted to beat [the Rockets] by 20."

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Mar 27, 2016.

  1. DaDakota

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    You are.

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  2. DVauthrin

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    Don't forget that missed threes lead to long rebounds, which lead to plenty of transition opportunities for the Rockets' opponents.
     
  3. leebigez

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    Count how many times after a rebound, harden runs to the ball. Even after the half ass effort defensively, he's going to the ball. Everytime. Very rarely someone other harden starts the break. Those things like that will throw your rhythm off as a pg. We all know, when james doesn't have the ball, he's not doing much of anything.
     
  4. leebigez

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    Because as a primary balk handler, he could've got harden easy baskets. That would've allowed Harden to conserve and have more energy late in games.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Amazing isn't it?

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  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Lawson was given the reins and did nothing with it. People like to blame Harden or the offense, but the fact is that Ty Lawson is mentally fragile and is physically on the decline.

    He's never going to avg 6+ assists a game.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    I broke this down in another thread and this risk is greatly exaggerated (If we're just using intution, don't long rebounds allow more offensive boards, too?). Somebody tried to claim that Harden's misses led to fast break after fast break - I reviewed about 40 misses over 5-6 games and didn't find a single transition basket as a result.

    However it's once again pretty easy to just use statistics on this, just take the historically best team in history, who happens to be playing right now - the Warriors miss 18.4 three pointers a game, the Rockets miss 19.6 - yet the Warriors are 5th in the league on defense.

    Also defensively Rockets opponents miss 17.6 three pointers a game. The Warriors opponents miss 15.8

    So, the Warriors miss nearly as many three pointers on a gross basis, and even more on a net basis - yet still have vastly superior defense than the Rockets.

    Try something else - I would love if the Rockests were a better deep shooting team but this is a classic example of intuition/confirmation biases precluding rational discussion.
     
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    Time to take a timeout, a la Von Wafer in the 2009 playoffs.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Good no one will miss you, goodbye!

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  10. heypartner

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    The argument 3ptrs put you at a risk of fast breaks is a misguided assumption. One of the great things about being a perimeter shooting team is your ability to get back on defense faster. Reality is completely the opposite to the "long rebound" thinkers.

    On misses, we just don't get back as well as most other teams at all levels of play (HS, NCAA, FIBA, NBA). Even our post game misses we're not that good. It isn't a weakness of system. The system actually makes it easier to get back. Rockets just don't demonstrate that like GSW and the Hakeem Rockets and the Spurs last title team (a prolific 3pt shooting team)...I could go on. JVG liked to spread the floor with 3pt shooters, too...one reason was for defense.
     
  11. bro2044

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    I completely agree with this>

    Perhaps Ty wouldn't have worked out either way, but couldn't we have gotten a move experienced, PROVEN coach to take over our WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALIST team before letting go of players that have proven themselves elsewhere?

    This was a lost season, a complete waste of time and we may have wasted a generation of Rockets basketball by not supporting the team at hand when he had talented players willing to come here. We proved last year that we could defend and score with almost the same players, but this year we cannot defend, go through LONG periods of scoring droughts, Harden has digressed, Howard is unhappy, JSmith and TJ have not contributed, DMo hasn't gotten back to his old self, Ty is gone, Beasley is here and contributing but all for naught, the Capela we loved is gone, and if Brewer isn't having an incredible night then instead he is going into full-blown Jeremy Lin disaster mode.

    I think you could give this group the right mentor coach and have a 60-win team.

    Instead, we all got our hearts ripped out by a leaderless, unmotivated team, and I can't get my NBA LP $ back. If you aren't going to get us an actual head coach Les, the least you could do is refund our money since you didn't pull through on your part of providing a product worth investing in.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    Yes but it's a plausible intuitive syllogism , therefore it passes the "i" test and can be posted on the "i"nternet repeatedly regardless of what a rational examination outside of the loving confines of the availability heuristic could reveal.

    One day it may even make it up to the status of Conventional Wisdom. Long way to go though.
     
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    This is true a lot of times because if Harden is running pick-and-roll with the big, you've got him and the big down at the rim and 2 of our perimeter players sliding up out of the corners. If they take the shot and it bounces out long in the middle.......we're in trouble in transition.

    And that happens over and over.

    #Sad
    #True
     

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