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Ty Lawson: "Hell yeah. I wanted to beat [the Rockets] by 20."

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Mar 27, 2016.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

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    How specifically are the Pacers using Lawson in their 26th ranked offense that enables him to succeed in s way he was not used in Houston?

    Are you able to answer this at all, or with specific examples?
     
  2. sew

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    To be fair, Lawson was coming off injury and has only just been integrated into the line up.

    It's only been 5 games, but he has looked slightly better in Indy so far.
     
  3. colt45nyc

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    I wanted Ty for the rockets during the off season but preferred Ricky Rubio.

    Ty just did not have the right mental makeup to accept the lesser role playing along Harden.

    To Ty's credit, it's not easy to get the ball less and expect to put up any kind of consistent stats.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Maybe he wouldn't have gotten of injured if the team didn't throw him to WOLVES on his first night and say "go to work and score some points Ty" because none of our players save PG are worth a damn on offense :(

    Sigh, this team has NO PLAN and NO ORG, same boring "defense first" style since the 90's.

    That's why they are so bad and uncreative on offense.

    It's a pace and space league, where is the INNOVATION? Larry, this is on you.

    PaPakota
     
  5. Surfguy

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    Ty Lawson is so lame. He had the ball in his hands quite a few times with the Rockets. He couldn't even hit jump shots with any consistency at all...mostly bricks. Now, on his new team, he's hitting jump shots.

    I'm not sure what his problem was on the Rockets...but it appears it was more in his head and he forgot how to play basketball.

    He was terrible for the Rockets...and it all can't be blamed on the "fit".
     
  6. MrButtocks

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    He said the exact same thing when we beat the Nuggets. Oh wait, we got swept by them. Thanks for nothing, Ty.
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Do you ever get tired of being an ******* little man?

    DD
     
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  8. TheFreak

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    You don't cater an offense to a guy so he can pile up assists. How does upping Lawson's assist total make the Rockets' offense better? It's sort of like Rondo getting a ton of assists while leading crappy offenses. Gaudy assist numbers just mean you have the ball in your hands a lot.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Our offense is not good, it is predictable and fairly easy to guard.

    DD
     
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    'I don't know if it was just the early transition of him learning to play without the ball...'
    -JBB

    There's the problem right there.
     
  11. TheFreak

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    It's the #8 offense in the league DD. The Pacer offense (which Lawson isn't good enough to contribute to apparently) is flat out terrible.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Our offense is 8th in the league in PPG, yes, but it is not varied enough, and if you adjust for pace of play, we are not that great.

    I would say our offense is average and our defense pathetic.

    DD
     
  13. SamFisher

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    Who's the "*******" as you put it earlier?

    The person who posts pure crap, like this, despite having been explained otherwise repeatedly, or the one who posts that even pace adjusted, the Rockets are ... 8th in the league on offense.

    I'd say it's the former because literally all of your anal-ysis is based on, as is your custom, a three column ed stool of pure excrement...with you serving as the blowhard expeller thereof.

    Think of me as more of an immodium of sorts.
     
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    DaDakota is 1st on the board in Posts/Gm, yes, but it is not varied enough, and if you adjust for pace, he is not that great.

    sorry, couldn't help myself. :p

    DD, the 8th ranking is adjusted for pace. We score efficiently because of our high amt of transition opportunities and our efficient shooting numbers. We understand you don't like the style. Many of us don't, or aren't that excited about it. So, we get that part. But nonetheless, it produces the 8th most points per 100 possessions.
     
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    We were more than fair to him

    He needed a second chance to bounce back...

    Our season was a mess and our SG duty heavy on the ball

    We could not provide a good situation other than on paper for him
     
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    8th ranked offense.
    26th ranked defense. (Only Sixers, Suns, Lakers, and Kings have worse defenses.)

    So our defense is terrible. But it is related to our offense.

    We have a potent scoring offense. Potent for us and against us. We commit more turnovers than everybody but the Suns and Sixers. And our turnovers are the worst kind that lead to us being in transition defense with man disadvantage.

    So we score a lot. But we give up more. And our offensive system contributes greatly to our defense being so bad by putting our defenders at such a disadvantage far too often in transition.
     
  18. heypartner

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    Agree. And it doesn't even have to be a man disadvantage. A 2 on 2 and 3 on 3 is an advantage to the offense, as well, hence why we like to push the tempo, but have to face that against us a lot, too. Basically, any situation where the defense isn't set in their proper structure and assignments is advantage offense.

    Our 8th best points per possession stat doesn't make us 8th best offense. In a non-continuous action game like football, where offense and defense isn't on the field at the same time, we can argue it does, but not basketball, hockey and soccer.
     
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    2 on 2 and 3 on 3 is a tremendous advantage to the offense. Spacing galore, huge lanes, defenders on their heels.

    We are in transition defense way too often and it is mostly due to the fact that we have one playmaker on the floor and his playmaking involves him forcing the issue possession after possession. Harden should be a secondary playmaker and we should have a primary playmaker on the floor that can feed everybody all over the floor and create in such a way that the defense doesn't know what is coming. You can freeze frame our offensive possessions when Harden has the ball at the top and correctly guess exactly what he's going to do with the basketball every time.

    No imagination. No real creation. Just one super-skilled basketball player taking on the world with every possession.
     
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  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Dada is a volume shooter. he would not select himself to be on Clutchfans if he used his own criteria. Definitely not a team player, a poor attitude. Doesn't share the ball. Is out of shape. Definitely a prima donna.

    His number will not be retired.
     
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