Pakistan suicide blast kills over 60 as Christian families gathered in the park to celebrate Easter

whats make ISIS any different from radical Christians movement in India like Nagaland ,Tripura front or Manimasi Army !

 

Size and lethality.

 

Never heard of those groups. How many innocent civilians have they killed?

 

I don't see him justifying anything. Trying to educate you knuckleheads but no where does he justify the attacks.

I'm glad you want to purge all Muslims by the way. Are you going to start with Hakeem?

 

if that was the case then the population of Bangui (CentralAfrica) decrease from 900k to less than a thousand in a few day back in 2014.Bosnia comes in mind when it comes to massive violence religiously motivated


Mark Juergensemyer the American famous scholar noted the cycle of violence from radical religious group (Muslim-Christian -Jew-Buddhist etc. ) for the past 40 years is a direct result of anti-secular government, I think he made a valid argument .


a quick Google Search indicate Violence started in early 2002, so its something contemporary , its impossible a small minorities can survive for centuries if it was systematic

personally , i see it as an escalation from more radical X-Talbian to challenge the government of Pakistan in which they cross the line between Punjabi-Pashtun .a massive scale of reaction might take place since tribal -ethnicity wont be a shield this time

 

Exactly - that idiotic babble by geeimsobored, what is it meant to mean? How does it matter whether there were Brits in Pakistan many years ago, that there have been failed dictatorships, or whatever else. None of that matters. Blowing up children is pure evil. The attackers have stated their motive - Islam. They have stated that they specifically targeted the victims because they were Christians. Everything else is noise, and attempts at relativizing the responsibility of the ideology that was clearly and plainly stated as motive of these horrific attacks.

 

He never said that. And although you are not the brightest, you know that.

In fact, YOU are the one implying that "all Muslims" have this lack of regard for human life.

okierock said:

"Anyone or any ideology that has this lack of regard for human life needs to be purged."

New Yorker then said:

"Glad you want to purge all Muslims"

okierock never said "all Muslims" - only the ones who show the disregard for human life expressed in blowing up children.

Clearly, New Yorker is saying that "all Muslims" have this lack of regard for human life, which is an insult to the majority of peace-loving Muslims in the world.

Either that, or he is once again intentionally misrepresenting what others have said. There is no other option. Either way, he is an attention-seeking dumbass.

 

He says my argument is a strawman, then he does exactly what he said doesn't happen. It's remarkable.

You didn't outright call okierock a bigot for his comment, Sweet Lou, you just implied it. I don't often agree with okierock, but that post of his post was spot on.

 

Do you have me on ignore or was that just you trying to beg for attention??? What was that? Clearly pathological.

Why are you still obsessed with New Yorker? It's been 10 years dude. Give it up! You need to get a life and move on already. Everyone else has, including me.

I mean, I'm flattered that I am so in your head but for your own sake let go.

 

Your argument was a strawman because you were arguing against something that no one was supporting.

As for okierock - whether he is a bigot or not is a different discussion. He said any ideology which he clearly meant Islam - let's not pretend that it is anything else. He said that ideology needs to be purged, and called it an evil ideology.

I think that many of you here agree with that sentiment, no? That's why you dismiss political and historical content.

Yes suicide bombings are horrible horrible things. There is no way around that. But clearly SOMEONE is justifying because it is happening. If you just want to say oh it's an evil ideology that the west needs to purge - well good luck with that. Let's see how far that gets things.

If you don't have the courage to address what is going on politically and historically - you are never going to turn the tide.

The idea that you can defeat ISIS with a strictly military solution is naive and dangerous, and that is the direction most who seek to portray Islam as an evil ideology like to go. But history has shown that every time war is brought into that region of the world, Radicalism increases not just in that particular country, but across states.

Until you follow the breadcrumb trails of how radical militant Islam has propagated, you will never be able to defeat it. Never.

 

He didn't say he wants to purge "all Muslims". You were putting words in his mouth. You constantly do that, you did it as New Yorker, taking completely different viewpoints, and you do it with this screen name. Then you argue against a strawman. It's all a desperate cry for attention, not real conviction. I guess certain professional constellations allow for the time and bitterness to do that kind of thing.

 

Lou Yorker - tsk tsk tsk.

DD

 

you guys are funny.

you actually think this has anything to do with islam? come on. wake up.

those that are falling over themselves to take this as a chance to spout the old 'my religion is better than yours nanny boo boo' are actually the most sad- because you want to believe your own shadows?!?and pat yourself up on YOUR religion?? wow. stop and think for a second how stupid and transparent that sounds.

anyway..

the prevailing common themes with these types of people (terror) is.. first they all share a common bond in stupidity. that cannot be understated.

next.. and these are the most important factors in no particular order-

-male usually
-unemployed. not working much if at all
-abject laziness(think ' the easy way out'guy we've all known him)
-18-30
-poor. no money.low eco but DEADLY mix of poor and doesnt want to work.
-uses 'the cause' to fund their laziness and perpetual drain on any ambition.
-any other moment we might just call it for what it really is = organized crime

in US we would call this this gangster. think about it... these 19 year old f**uckheads wearing a red bandana will shoot someone wearing a blue bandana? in the name of a color??much less a religion?you guys are WAY overthinkinh this.

..,and trust me I can find ten zillion links about some gangster killing innocents in the name of a stupid ass color.

come on people..try to keep up.

these bombs are peace offerings to the steady flow of income from the bin ladens and KSMs of the world.

you think these lazy f heads wanna go do jihad? of course not. they are drawing straws to see who the next up will be in their group. blood in blood out.

think how impressionable a lazy ass 18 year old is with money flowing in?

now pull out your memory sticks and lets see..hmmm I guess we are all cool with silly old church donations that find their way back to sinn fein? you can link the kennedys and start a nice long list there from that spot.

I carry an irish passport. my cousin married a guy and 'the cause' is irish independence .the reality is organized crime and the same stuff the triads crips do. the put a face on it and get that old lady in boston to donate to it.ya dig?

there were 10,000 bombings between 1969-1998
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...e_Northern_Ireland_Troubles_and_peace_process

how many for islam? you guys are dumb enough to fall for the laziness gangsta long con and think its religion?!?bawawa!! jokes on you!

as a matter of coincidence I spent a long time in the basque region of spain.

I can tell you from first hand experience the players involved are criminal elements that get funded to play a part and continue their laziness.
much of their business is 'the cause' and these same people are doing extortion and other petty crimes. same idea same sh**it different day- male,poor,impressionable, most important LAZY.

from 1968 until 2002, there had been more than 3,300 ETA attacks

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ETA_attacks

show me a terrorist and I will show you a lost male around 19,poor, lazy piece of crap.

I have 13,000 examples and Im happy to link you to the same kind of yahoos here in usa.

if only the bloods were smart enough to invoke some 'cause'

btw {quality post final statement} these are also the same animals and mindset you see with sinaloa,zeta etc. its no different...poor, easy money, etc etc. and they are cutting off intestines and smearing them on the highway to acapulco. what religion is that?? $$$$$$

come on people. wake up.

 

- Many of the guys involved in 9/11 were privileged Arab students on scholarships, from rich families - neither uneducated nor poor. They lived in the West, with money, girlfriends, and parties

- The guy who murdered Theo van Gogh in the street was a Dutch social worker who didn't even speak Arabic

- One of the shooters at Charlie Hebdo was a social worker who promoted recycling

- There have been quite a few female suicide bombers.

While you are generally right about the profile of suicide attackers as male and 18-30 of Arabic origin, far from all of the perpetrators of Islamic terrorism fit the profile you described.

But they all have in common that they state Islam as their motive.

 

Don't forget Osama Bin-Laden...

 

Yes, and Al-Zawahiri, etc. etc.

 

When they pronounce his name it comes out as "Al Zickowee" How is that possible from that spelling?

 

I think you need to 'wake up' if you naively believe it has nothing to do with Islam.

 

the unabomber went to harvard.
nichols went to university. mcveigh served in the military. the reality is not a lot of mohammed attas (pretty easy to argue dude was a loser on other levels) and lots and lots of poor impressionable lazy pieces of crap. go read the bios on the 19 hijackers and get back to me.

arabic?ever heard of going postal? WWJD? I mean 'what would jody do??!??-
http://news.yahoo.com/suspect-death-vermont-social-worker-due-court-054643972.html

what is your deal with social workers? like you hold them to some higher esteem than other occupations? weird dude. this is where your post takes a turn for the strange. Also isn't promoting recycling cool? I feel slightly uncomfortable now trying to follow you. this is like german humor. surely im missing something here.

im no scientist but i would say the human numbers are running somewhere around 50-50. no go look at the ratio of female to male terrorist, gangster, suicide bomber and get back to me.

easy there buddy.. I know engrish isnt your first language but I never saud anything about of arabic origin. In fact quite the opposite.

for zeta is mexican origin, same for crips, triads tend to be asian. and the same guys who bomb for the IRA and ETA are the same profiles of loserville whether its dylan klebold or dzhokar or donald o leary. go read about these belgium attackers. they were loser petty lazy thiefs. come on stop trying to put words in my mouth. im actually tired of your lame rhetoric and had to come off my lurk.

engrish mang. engrish. did I say all?

I call guys like bin laden, atta, mcveigh idealogue lone wolfs and the majority as in 90% fit the profile.

its the same profile for all be it eta,crip, isis.

yep. its called 'a cause' same way zetas write their names in intestine on the face of the gulf cartel chopped off head. same way my cause is 14th street and you are dumb enough to be here from 13th street. who told you to wear red you punk?

man you really have had a sheltered surrounding.

wake up

 

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