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Bernie Sanders 2016 Feel the Bern!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. Major

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    This is exactly right. These analyses don't account for any of the secondary factors. If businesses have higher labor costs in taxes, that's going to filter down in the form of lower wages, etc because a person's total economic value to the business is not changing. When you make this major a change to tax policy, you can't just look at marginal rates and pretend everything else is going to function the same.
     
  2. anchel

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    What are your bets on New York? Are there some polls or something?
     
  3. Cohete Rojo

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    I love how Sanders supporters attack Trump because he would use tariffs as a negotiating tool. Meanwhile...

    Sanders and Cruz supporters are the most dangerous groups in this presidential nomination race. They both claim that there are things wrong with the economy but their ideas are totally insane. Not to mention how insane some of their foreign policy is.
     
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    Coming from the man that has believed Sanders was catching Clinton even when basic math showed otherwise.... Even when multiple people explained it to you, you stuck your head in the sand and said "no Sanders is catching Clinton in the delegate race.... Now you are saying if Sanders is President he will just obviously have a Sanders friendly congress and senate.

    So who is trolling?
     
  6. Major

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    What makes you think this is the case? Trump is very much to the left on trade issues - I doubt it's Sanders supporters primarily attacking him on that. It's mostly going to be moderate Dems and GOPers that are attacking Trump on that isusue.
     
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    You could say the exact same thing about Trump and all his crazy ideas then.
     
  8. dc rock

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    Have there been any negative ads against Bernie? Skip Vallee used to just randomly run ads against Bernie in off-years.

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    Sanders direction are not totally insane, but his tax plan is. His supporters don't understand his tax plan.

    Sanders wouldn't be a disaster, but he would limit growth. This is why Clinton is a better choice, because she can balance the desires of progressives with sustainable growth. Taxing the middle class and small business is not the answer. In fact, taxing business is not the answer. Taxing wealthy individuals is going to be key. So is improving the efficiency of the federal govt.
     
  10. Major

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    Is any of this really true, though? Because over the last 8 years, that's exactly what's happened - taxes went up slightly on high income. We got a health care surtax. Etc. It did not require overstating anything and Progressives don't seem happy with it.
     
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    any American that votes for Sanders or Clinton needs to get a check up from the neck up.
     
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    Amazing insight. Thanks for your contribution.
     
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    HOT TAKE ALERT!!!!!
     
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    Last 5 states bernie has won by over 70%, nice


    New York will be big, hopefully he can at least split the delegates there. California could single handed win him this election if he can win big enough there.
     
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    You. Sanders is catching up close to 75 delegates last night. And yeah if Sanders is voted in, people will vote in a democratic congress
     
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    If he steals NY, I think he's got it. He hasn't lost a state outside of the South badly and if he can just hang close in Clinton States like he's done and keep winning his states by these huge margins he's been doing, he'll be fine.
     
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    He's got it, no way O'Malley or Chafee can catch him now.
     
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    Interesting take by 538 on Wash/Alaska/Hawaii. They're sticking with their Clinton's-got-this conclusion.

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...te-caucuses-but-hes-about-to-run-out-of-them/

    Basically...Bernie wins caucuses, and states with very few blacks. And not enough left to change things. Their conclusion:

    My math isn't as conclusive. Guess NY is his next do or die.
     
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    I think some people are just now starting to realize Bernie is the only one who isn't a huge d bag unfortunately its probably to late... I wish he would have been able to gain some steam a few months back.
     

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