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Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. peleincubus

    peleincubus Member

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    Yeah get things done like start a war that kills a few million people. Could it get started though twitter also :confused:


    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  2. RocketsLegend

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    Clinton is going to kill billions of people and cause the extinction of humans race. See, I can say crap too.
     
  3. Amiga

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    Donald has never walked in any government role. He's a true amateur. You crazy if you think private "walk" translate to public "walk", not to mention how have Donald really "walked" in his business dealing.
     
  4. Hakeemtheking

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    Trump being trashed at CF is well deserved. I would submit, however, that a possible Cruz presidency would be far, far worse for those with moderate and liberal views. Having control of Congress and the White House would mean the end of many social programs. Think of Kansas and Louisiana with their red state experiment, and extrapolate that to a national level.
     
  5. Tom Bombadillo

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    Is it too late to run Mark Cuban or Arnold for President? We need more celebrity r****ds in the race so the idiotic masses can soil themselves!
     
  6. bigtexxx

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    Deckard - did you go poof again, when challenged?
     
  7. jo mama

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    i answered your question but you did not respond. did you go poof again, when challenged?
     
  8. jo mama

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    no, trump wants us to turn into nazi germany, china, north korea or russia. he praises the leadership of kim jong un and putin and the way china handled tienanmen square masacre.

    authoritarianism is so 20th century!
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    Your sad attempt focused on who she works for and Ted's clerical error.

    No beans spilled. Try harder.
     
  10. jo mama

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    teds "clerical error" - yeah, and clinton did not have sex with that woman or inhale.

    your reading comprehension is not good. go back, reread my post and try again.

    when trump said he was going to spill the beans i was certain he was going to bring up her history of depression and the time she had a mental breakdown on the side of enfield road and the police had to come out. im actually surprised trump did not play the "mentally unstable" card, and rather went with the more predictable "my wife is hotter" card.
     
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  11. bigtexxx

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    Just a sad and ugly post from you. Your bias has led you down a dark path that has stooped to very low levels. Talking about a candidate's wife's speculated mental state is pathetic, dude.
     
  12. mtbrays

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    Did you get a good deal on your new glass house and did it come with the rocks you're throwing?
     
  13. jo mama

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    haha - what a crybaby!

    you're the one who asked what beans there are to spill dude. and there is nothing to speculate...it was widely reported that she had a mental breakdown on enfield road and the police had to come out. everyone knows about it and im surprised trump did not go there.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    So far Trump is the only man to show he may be so clueless that he won't be able to work with allies to defeat ISIS.

    He's so ignorant that he'd tell the Air Force 1 to turn around and leave every time he landed and the leader of the an allied nation didn't meet him at the airport. OF course they never would because that isn't protocol.

    But we have Trump's own words stating that he would tell Air Force 1 to turn around and leave.

    So without any allies to get security information from, or give it too, we'd be much worse off in our battle against ISIS.

    So far only trump has been that ignorant.

    But he has really shown what he can do well by tweeting a glamor shot of his wife, and a bad photo of Cruz' wife. That's awesome. He's showing what a true leader he is!
     
  15. RocketsLegend

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    When did Trump praise Kim Jong Un? Also did you have any problem with Obama going to Cuba and shaking hands with leaders that are accused of horrible treatment of their own people? Oh the hypocrisy.
     
  16. RocketsLegend

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    Never forget, he warned us and people took it as a joke.

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  17. bigtexxx

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    While I'm not a Trump supporter, one does have to admit he nailed it on Brussels.
     
  18. Nook

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    Trump isn't a dumb man.
     
  19. Deckard

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    Beans? You want beans? This is something Judo posted in the "When Cruz Makes His Move, Watch Out" thread, on page 30. It is from the New York Times. I've posted before about this problem that Mr. and Mrs. Cruz have had with the Federal Campaign Finance laws. Mrs. Cruz was involved in this, up to her neck. Please read the entire article, (?)texxx. I know you can read, and surely you have the attention span that will allow you to digest this bit of nefarious activity by Senator Cruz and Mrs. Cruz. Again, my thanks to Judo, although I've posted about this dishonesty before, and on more than one occasion. Former Lt. Governor David Dewhurst, who was the opponent of Mr. Cruz, must be doing a slow burn over this, even now. The loan to Cruz, with the help of Mrs. Cruz (disclosing it is required by law), came at a critical moment of the primary. Cruz was trailing Dewhurst at the time, and the huge, undisclosed loan enabled him to buy ad time that played a big role in allowing him to squeak into a runoff, which he subsequently won. Senator Cruz didn't disclose the loan, obtained with the help of his wife, from the gigantic investment bank Goldman Sachs, while he was campaigning as the candidate fighting "against the establishment, against the big banks, and for working Americans." Rings a bit hollow, doesn't it? So here you go:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/us...2012.html?_r=0

    Ted Cruz Didn’t Disclose Loan From Goldman Sachs for His First Senate Campaign

    As Ted Cruz tells it, the story of how he financed his upstart campaign for the United States Senate four years ago is an endearing example of loyalty and shared sacrifice between a married couple.

    “Sweetheart, I’d like us to liquidate our entire net worth, liquid net worth, and put it into the campaign,” he says he told his wife, Heidi, who readily agreed.

    But the couple’s decision to pump more than $1 million into Mr. Cruz’s successful Tea Party-darling Senate bid in Texas was made easier by a large loan from Goldman Sachs, where Mrs. Cruz works. That loan was not disclosed in campaign finance reports.

    Those reports show that in the critical weeks before the May 2012 Republican primary, Mr. Cruz — currently a leading contender for his party’s presidential nomination — put “personal funds” totaling $960,000 into his Senate campaign. Two months later, shortly before a scheduled runoff election, he added more, bringing the total to $1.2 million — “which is all we had saved,” as Mr. Cruz described it in an interview with The New York Times several years ago.

    A review of personal financial disclosures that Mr. Cruz filed later with the Senate does not find a liquidation of assets that would have accounted for all the money he spent on his campaign. What it does show, however, is that in the first half of 2012, Ted and Heidi Cruz obtained the low-interest loan from Goldman Sachs, as well as another one from Citibank. The loans totaled as much as $750,000 and eventually increased to a maximum of $1 million before being paid down later that year. There is no explanation of their purpose.

    Neither loan appears in reports the Ted Cruz for Senate Committee filed with the Federal Election Commission, in which candidates are required to disclose the source of money they borrow to finance their campaigns. Other campaigns have been investigated and fined for failing to make such disclosures, which are intended to inform voters and prevent candidates from receiving special treatment from lenders. There is no evidence that the Cruzes got a break on their loans.

    A spokeswoman for Mr. Cruz’s presidential campaign, Catherine Frazier, acknowledged that the loan from Goldman Sachs, drawn against the value of the Cruzes’ brokerage account, was a source of money for the Senate race. Ms. Frazier added that Mr. Cruz also sold stocks and liquidated savings, but she did not address whether the Citibank loan was used.

    The failure to report the Goldman Sachs loan, for as much as $500,000, was “inadvertent,” she said, adding that the campaign would file corrected reports as necessary. Ms. Frazier said there had been no attempt to hide anything.

    “These transactions have been reported in one way or another on his many public financial disclosures and the Senate campaign’s F.E.C. filings,” she said.


    Kenneth A. Gross, a former election commission lawyer who specializes in campaign finance law, said that listing a bank loan in an annual Senate ethics report — which deals only with personal finances — would not satisfy the requirement that it be promptly disclosed to election officials during a campaign.

    “They’re two different reporting regimes,” he said. “The law says if you get a loan for the purpose of funding a campaign, you have to show the original source of the loan, the terms of the loan and you even have to provide a copy of the loan document to the Federal Election Commission.”


    There would have been nothing improper about Mr. Cruz obtaining bank loans for his campaign, as long as they were disclosed. But such a disclosure might have conveyed the wrong impression for his candidacy.

    Mr. Cruz, a conservative former Texas solicitor general, was campaigning as a populist firebrand who criticized Wall Street bailouts and the influence of big banks in Washington. It is a theme he has carried into his bid for the Republican nomination for president.

    Earlier this year, when asked about the political clout of Goldman Sachs in particular, he replied, “Like many other players on Wall Street and big business, they seek out and get special favors from government.”


    In recounting the decision to put all of their savings into the campaign, Mr. Cruz said in the 2013 Times interview that Mrs. Cruz immediately agreed to his proposal, even though he was trailing in the polls and still viewed as a long shot against Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, who spent $24 million of his own money on the race.

    “What astonished me, then and now, was Heidi within 60 seconds said, ‘Absolutely,’ with no hesitation,” Mr. Cruz said.

    Mrs. Cruz, who is on leave as a managing director at Goldman Sachs, later suggested that the reality was more complicated. She told Politico in 2014 that she thought they should apply “common investment sense” and not use their own money for the campaign “unless it made the difference” in winning. The article did not mention anything about loans from banks.

    The money from the Cruzes allowed his campaign to keep running television ads in the period preceding the primary election, including a $300,000 ad buy that highlighted the story of Mr. Cruz’s father’s flight from Cuba in the 1950s after opposing the Batista regime. Mr. Cruz earned enough votes in the primary to qualify for a runoff, where he defeated Mr. Dewhurst and went on to win the general election.

    The ethics reports that candidates file with the Senate require them to list all assets they held at the close of the year or that generated income during the year. Assets are reported in broad categories of value, such as $1,001 to $15,000 and $100,001 to $250,000.

    Mr. Cruz’s filings show that at the close of 2011, he and his wife had cash and securities in bank, brokerage and retirement accounts worth $1.3 million to $3.4 million. They also had mortgages and a loan against Mr. Cruz’s partnership equity in his law firm. During 2012, they sold securities worth $82,000 to $355,000, and the value of other holdings was reduced by, at most, $155,000.

    However, they also added a money-market account with $250,000 to $500,000 in it, and the value of other holdings increased by as much as $435,000. All told, the value of their cash and securities in 2012 saw a net increase of as much as $400,000 — even as the Cruzes were supposedly liquidating everything to finance Mr. Cruz’s Senate campaign.

    The biggest change in the Cruzes’ finances in 2012 was the addition of the two bank loans, each valued at $250,000 to $500,000, during the first half of the year. One was a margin loan from Goldman Sachs. Margin loans, which are secured by holdings in a brokerage account, are often used to buy more stocks, but can be obtained for almost any purpose.

    The other loan was a line of credit from Citibank. Even if the Citibank loan did not go directly into the Senate campaign, it could have freed up other assets for that purpose. While the Cruzes were well paid — he made more than $1 million a year as a law partner, and she earned a six-figure income as an executive in Goldman Sachs’s Houston office — they also had big bills, including mortgage payments and full-time child care.

    Both loans had floating interest rates around 3 percent, according to Mr. Cruz’s Senate disclosures, which appear to be generally in line with rates available to wealthy borrowers at that time.

    During the remainder of 2012, the Cruz campaign repaid Mr. Cruz for about half of the money he lent. His Senate disclosures show that he and his wife paid off the Citibank loan that same year. As for the Goldman Sachs loan, it remains outstanding, though the balance has been reduced to between $50,000 and $100,000.

    The federal guide to campaign finance reporting for congressional candidates makes it clear that if the original source of money for a candidate’s personal loan was a margin loan or a line of credit, it must be disclosed.

    “Bank loans to candidates and loans derived from advances on a candidate’s brokerage accounts, credit cards, home equity line of credit, or other lines of credit obtained for use in connection with his or her campaign must be reported by the committee,” according to the guide.



    No thanks required, (?)texxx. Enjoy your beans. Try some rice with that!
     
  20. solodolo

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    Damn !

    R.I.P bigtexxx
     

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