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Brussels Airport Explosions Kill and Wound 'Several': Official

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Mar 22, 2016.

  1. aussie rocket

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    My Dad got in touch with the travel agent, and is seeing about possibility of late re-route avoiding Paris for a non capital city.

    After some time to consider, I told him - and I quote from my text

    "F* these motherf*. I'm not letting them stop you enjoying the fruits of your hard labour".

    Also, the resolve is coming to the fore. I don't want to be one of those people who is scared to leave their house. I'd rather die doing what I wanted, than live in fear.
     
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  2. Honey Bear

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    The comparison of muslims to rabid dogs is substantiated based on an inability to live harmoniously and constant aggressive outbursts, with or without American intervention.

    Study the history of the ME and muslim migrants over a millenia if you actually care about this issue - as opposed to getting worked up because of the activity of your social media over a day.

    It's rather pathetic the top 1% of muslims, who are well adjusted in the west and financially secure, are supposed to set the bar in how to treat the masses. Until the issue of Islamic hatred is addressed, mass attacks will continue to be routine. For the sake of being liked, the west has been afraid of saying something honest that might 'push' more moderates to extremism. So why doesn't that apply to Christians , Hindus , Jews , Scientologists and Atheists who don't prey on this emotion?

    There is no singular issue.

    Its not immigration. Its not war. It's not not being included. It's not barbaric customs. Its not refugees. Its not cartoons. Keep trying to put bandaids on a dam, and new leaks pop out elsewhere. The issue is the broad narrative of Islam - an intolerant and vengeful ideology with a chip on their shoulder. It can only be fought by other muslims - not the civilized west.
     
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  3. Commodore

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    had this guy for four days, this is why you waterboard

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Official: Terror suspect Salah Abdeslam possibly planned new attacks <a href="https://t.co/ilJ3INvPfg">https://t.co/ilJ3INvPfg</a> <a href="https://t.co/Qotgf5ikUO">https://t.co/Qotgf5ikUO</a></p>&mdash; CNN Newsroom (@CNNnewsroom) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNNnewsroom/status/711915088131854336">March 21, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  4. aussie rocket

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    In follow up hours to attack - apartment raided - IS Flag and other weapons found.

    My query is, if they know where these *&*&*)* live - why aren't they more on the front foot.
     
  5. RocketsLegend

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    I'm for torturing tactics on terror suspects. I think waterboarding is too soft.
     
  6. ipaman

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    terrorist don't follow geneva conventions so when dealing with terrorist we should do the same. it's only fair and they'll understand. legally, terrorist aren't protected by geneva convention law so we're in the clear
     
  7. aussie rocket

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    The left will say - "We shouldn't stoop to the level of the enemy"

    :rolleyes:
     
  8. ivanyy2000

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    Looks like Trump was right, again.

    Liberals anywhere are similar, they have a big heart but clueless about realities.
     
  9. ipaman

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    exactly. many people argue about dropping two nukes on japan and rightly fully so. BUT it did almost immediately end a world war that had millions of casualties. don't get into a war you don't plan on winning and war is nasty and the nastiest wins. we can't PC our way to victory against folks like these.

    Don't be fooled by the libs and the media. Fact is, nobody has the right to not be offended!!!
     
  10. hashmander

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    well the belgians can decide what kind of country they want to be and the values that are important to them. same for us and every other country.
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    Not really. He was already being cooperative. They found out a ton of information from him. We don't know exactly what the connection (if any) was between him and the people who committed the bombings today.

    The good news is that because he wasn't waterboarded what he told the interrogators is actually reliable.

    Had he been waterboarded he would have given the same information he did anyway and he would have also said anything else that popped into his mind that he thought the interrogators might have wanted to hear whether or not it was true. The officials would have had to then sort through all he said, waste time chasing down false leads, and nothing about this bombing would have changed at all.

    Of course the problem of people who didn't feel enough loyalty toward Belgium to turn Abdelselam wouldn't have been solved, and probably would have been made worse.

    We would be torturing people just like Sadam did, just like Hitler did, just like everyone we've been taking a stand against has done.

    You don't sell out your principles because you get scared. You especially don't sell them out when they are ineffective at stopping terrorism you are trying to stop.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    The people who actually interrogate will say that it isn't the most effective way to get reliable information, and in the battle against terrorism, getting reliable information should be what we are after.
     
  13. B-Bob

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    Dude, don't let facts and research get in the way of political views formed by a K. Sutherland TV drama.
     
  14. Cohete Rojo

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    Ideologically speaking, they (al-Qaeda, ISIS, etc) are religious-anarchists. They believe that nations like Saudi Arabia are apostates. Anyone who stands with the apostates is a kafir (infidel). They use the apostate-label as a means to skirt any Koranical law forbidding Muslims from killing other Muslims.

    To many of these terrorists, the Saudis, Jordanians, etc are the enemy, because they misrepresent the true meaning of Islam. They feel that the only path for people to seek the true meaning of Islam exists in a world reverted back to the time of Mohammed. Apostate nations must be destroyed. Kafir nations must be destroyed. Everything must be destroyed.

    And so when all the nation states are left in ruins, there will be but one option for the people to turn toward: Islam.
    Pray 5 times a day and wear the hijab - that's their economic policy.
    Pray 5 times a day and wear the hijab - that's their foreign policy.
    Pray 5 times a day and wear the hijab - that's their education policy.
    Pray 5 times a day and wear the hijab - that's their agricultural policy.
     
  15. CometsWin

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    Trump24: Bigger, Stronger, better, and smarterer than ever. Big, huuuuuge ratings. No real plot or story but lots of Mexican drug dealers and Muslim terrorists. And lots of guns, big tough guns.
     
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    Calling Islam a death cult isn't going to do anything to stop this kind of stuff. Xenophobia only makes things worse.
     
  18. Jonhty

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    so? they didn't ask him if waterboarding's most effective. waterboarding and the most effective way, if there's such a thing, don't have to be mutually exclusive.
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    So your position is that waterboarding should be done just for the hell of it, even if it isn't for getting reliable information?

    That's and odd position to take. I don't know all of the interrogation techniques, but I do know that waterboarding would be mutually exclusive with some of them.

    It would also be mutually exclusive with American values, and what we've stood against for decades.
     
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