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Brussels Airport Explosions Kill and Wound 'Several': Official

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Mar 22, 2016.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    That's true whether you take dogs in, keep them out, get them from breeders, etc.

    What I do know is that accepting a neglected dog, training it, and the kids in how to deal with it, they are much more safe than having a ton of vicious attack dogs outside their home.

    And like I said, 99% of the time you have a loyal member added to your family that will help to alert and protect you against anyone or thing outside of your home and family that would do harm to them.

    I want to stop the vicious dogs. I just want to be smart about it, rather allow my anger, fear, and ignorance be factors that determine what actions I'll take.
     
  2. SaFe

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    But most of the western world don't have state religion. We not only openly criticize Islam we have free speech that allows us to criticize every religion including Christianity. In this environment there is simply little indication that Muslims would assimilate with us.

    Almost every country in the middle east have Islam as their state religion, and some operate just fine with the western world. Yet as a westerner, when I travel to their countries I know to respect their religion and not say stupid stuff. I believe in baby steps, and right now Islam as a religion simply haven't evolved to a stage where they will fully embrace western civilization yet. Taking them into our homes is just foolishness.
     
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    The people who occupied that building in the middle of nowhere were not the KKK, but nice try with the bait and switch.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Nobody said that racism disappeared. But it greatly improved. You should talk to some friends great grandparents, or possibly grandparents who lived in the south prior to mandated desegregation.

    I can find a dozens of videos of southern racists. That doesn't prove anything. LOL!
     
  5. ipaman

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    i said it before, has to be a coordinated propaganda war at a global level. we need every country currently fighting against them to release news stories of fake casualties and loss territory. start spreading the word that IS is losing. all of this news has to be spread around the world in including arab ghettos in europe and the middle east, in the refugee camps, on the war ground itself. use pamphlets, tv, radio, print, etc... create the impression with everyone that their time is coming to an end. this will trigger a loss of momentum in their activities and more importantly a rise in refugees to return and fight and claim victory.
     
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    Can I ask where the outrage is when Turkey, Ivory Coast, and other Non-European countries have terrorist attacks? All lives matter?
     
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    So who are we relating to dogs?

    FYI you do know that if you bring a dog into your home and it kills your child you are responsible for that death?
     
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    #NoLivesMatter
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Sure, I do. You do know, that if you're careful, train your children and the dog, that will almost certainly not happen?

    People with children have been taking in stray dogs for ages, and it's often the children themselves who bring them home. Yet the stray brought in from outside hardly ever kills the children. It may have happened a few times, but it isn't the norm by any means.

    Furthermore training the family and the dogs both almost completely eliminates these occurrences.
     
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    Media coverage. How many reporters does the likes of CNN, BBC, etc have on hand in those countries? This one is also links back to Paris so there's that too.
     
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    I hope that you are right about willingness and ability to change. From what I have seen so far, there is little evidence for that. When you have been indoctrinated with something from early childhood, it is hard to overcome it. That is not exclusive to prejudice in Islam, but applies to anyone else as well.

    With regard to the refugees, I agree that we should not shut them all out. But I also think that we cannot just let anyone and everyone into the country without any kind of vetting. It just seems like a recipe for disaster.
     
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    When I post about these non-European ones, I get told that I am obsessed.

    Yes, all lives matter.

    As to Ivory Coast:

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=273242
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, it is tough to change the minds of people who've been indoctrinated since childhood. Honestly, probably only some of those would be able to move forward and change their prejudices. But I think generationally it could happen on a much greater scale.

    These attacks are very disheartening, and tragic. I think ISIS is a real and horrible enemy. What I don't want to do is alienate people who should be allies in this.

    There's a problem that the ISIS terrorist recently captured was part of someone's funeral, and was staying in a neighborhood in Belgium. Everyone in that neighborhood should have felt comfortable and loyal enough to Belgium to have called in the authorities on the terrorist. It is a problem when they don't feel that loyal. It's something that needs to be fixed, or we'll keep having these kinds of horrible attacks.
     
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    I haven't read the entire thread, just the first couple of pages, after finding out about this a few minutes ago. One of the rare times I hadn't checked the news all day. This is why it's rare, I guess. We're going to Europe from the middle of June to the middle of July for a family get together. My significant other's late mother emigrated to the States from the Netherlands in the 1930's as a teenager on the French liner the Normandie, so she has numerous relatives there. We'll be going to other places besides the Netherlands. Budapest for the first time, as well as Vienna and some other spots we haven't been to in a long time. We have no plans to cancel the trip. None. It would take Putin deciding to invade the Baltic members of NATO to cause us not to go. The moment you let the filth that are responsible for these horrific acts rule how you live your lives, then they have won.

    At some point, if this continues, I can see the EU calling on NATO to invade the area that is the so-called Islamic State, and if NATO doesn't respond (unlikely), to do something themselves as the EU beyond flying over Syria and Iraq dropping bombs. This can't be allowed to continue indefinitely. If Germany, Italy, and Spain are hard hit by ISIS, along with some of the other smaller countries more similar in size to Belgium, with equal or worse acts of terrorism against their innocent populations, they will calling for action. I know the countries I mentioned, as well as the UK, have been hit by terrorism in the past, but not like this, in an on-going, coordinated manner. So much of the European economy is dependent on tourism, and few will want to go there if these attacks continue indefinitely. In my humble opinion.

    This isn't the IRA, who now look rather civilized, even in their heyday. They almost always called in a warning with the location of the bomb during their campaign against Great Britain, so civilians could clear out if they moved fast. The people responsible for these acts are animals. This isn't the Iraq of Saddam Hussein with George W. Bush's mad invasion that caused so much misery and cost so much blood and treasure, along with the instability that directly led to so much of the radicalizing that produced ISIS. This is a wannabe nation state that has declared war on our civilization. Something will have to be done. Something needs to be done.
     
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    Every Terrorist act

    Every Act of retaliation . .. .

    Every comment by Arm War General here . . . .

    I go back to Star Trek

    We sit in our comfy homes with our laptops in our laps eating Ice Cream
    hypothesize about this and that .. . . .
    but Man
    People are dying in the Middle East and everywhere else
    We are surprised when it spills out . . . . ..
    While I can mourn for the people hurt in Brussels . . . .Do we even keep count how many people . . . not terrorist but PEOPLE we killed in the Middle East in the last month? Drone Strikes? etc.
    For the Average American . . .. this is about as neat and painless war
    as there could be . . . The reprocussions here are minimal compare to what is
    happening there. . . . not belittling anyone's life here .. . but just giving them equal value to lives there. . . . .


    Are those our options? Peace or Utter Destruction?
    Have we chosen Utter Destruction? Either they die or we die?

    And peace is not .. . DO WHAT WE SAY OR ELSE!!!
    Peace is not the Absence of disagreement or even friction

    It seems alot of people in these threads . . .. don't think PEACE is possible
    or they have no interesting PEACE . . . only SUBMISSION

    Rocket River
     
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    Good point. Zero deaths when they bombed the Arndale Center in Manchester. Both soft targets but these guys are trying to kill people as many as possible.
     
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    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    I think Trek got it wrong on terrorism. Not the moral compass I would follow.

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CHsoPPynIIc?rel=0&amp;showinfo=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


    Waiting on the DS9 rebuttal from RR as I guess they touched on it more often than TNG.
     
  19. mr. 13 in 33

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who are these <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BrusselsAttacks?src=hash">#BrusselsAttacks</a> suspects? <a href="https://twitter.com/RichardEngel">@RichardEngel</a> reports now on <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews">@NBCNightlyNews</a>. <a href="https://t.co/uErciAowkZ">pic.twitter.com/uErciAowkZ</a></p>&mdash; NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/712407616325079040">March 22, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  20. TheresTheDagger

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    You are mistaken.

    I have family who was in lower Manhatten on 9/11 and for a few hours on that day, we didn't know where she was.

    I have another friend who was running the Boston Marathon the day of that attack.

    I've met Marcus Luttrell. I know what he went through. I have a work aquaintance who's kid was wounded in the Middle East. I know other military families whose kids have or currently are deployed.

    Don't talk to me about repercussions. Don't talk to me about minimal. This **** is affecting plenty of people here. Just because you eat ice cream and post here doesn't mean its the typical experience. Check yourself.
     

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