Sources: Dwight doesn't see himself as a Rocket next year

I agree with this completely. It's ridiculous to think that the Rockets were wrong for wanting the best pick and roll center in the league to you know actually pick and roll. Thats like Hakeem refusing to do the Dream Shake. Ofcourse Hakeem was really good at everything else too but still if you can destroy people doing the Dreamshake why the hell not?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1W1C-ov3U4

25 seconds in theres a screen set by dwight and Beasley attacks. Not the route I would have taken but look at his enthusiasm and finish. Thats some damn good ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVjbDEqYsNM

44 seconds look at that. Going downhill is just so natural for Beasley. Then again I think this is a limitation of Dwight's as I do not think he could dribble drive like that.
55 seconds, again that high screen. Beautiful.

I love the speed and flow at which Beasley attacks with and I wish Howard could commit to a pick n roll like that. With his size he would be a beast! I mean I know we know that, he's often talked about his unwillingness to run pick n roll despite being above average at it, but I think a GOOD COACH could go a long way toward making Howard play to his best ability

 

Our offense is free flowing if Dwight wanted more touches he could have just set more picks instead he goes for a post up that literally no one wants to pass it to him to do. I've seen Harden beg Dwight for a pick so many times and Dwight just waves while he's under the basket fully covered acting as if he's open. What happens next is a comedy of errors. Either Harden goes one on one and jacks up a shot which will go in most times or he'll try to pass it to Dwight. The ball will get stolen and the turnover will be blamed on Harden. Or Dwight will fumble the ball or Dwight will catch it and get fouled (Not what you want) or Dwight will throw up a horrible hook shot that will look like he never played basketball in his life. It rarely ends with Dwight gets ball hookshot while well covered Swish! But that's what happens in his head.

 

Come on. Just think about 2 years of Harden and Howard, good times and bad, last week and last year, and re-read your post. Honestly bro, you don't even believe what you've written here.

We went to the WCF last season with Howard beasting in the playoffs. Easily won the C position against Chandler, D Jordan and then Bogut. Never got in the way of Harden.

You can start at the bolded part and start working your way back from there. Just think about what you're saying/writing here. We have to stop being bipolar. Howard has been an excellent teammate/employee since he has been a Rocket, on and off the court. He hasn't been an amazing player. At the same time, he hasn't missed every ISO he's gotten, and Harden has not been sinking shots with defenders in his face just because Howard didn't set him a pick.

These are not realistic things. Howard has been really good, and we should be proud we got him, and happy about what he's given us based on what he is capable of. If you went into this thing thinking he would improve his FT% or post ups or whatever, you are being unrealistic and delusional. We got a guy with over 10 years NBA experience, he's not going to suddenly make major shifts in his game. He gave us what we had, in a time where league rules and players are making his core strengths less relevant. In fact, he made a shift that no 10+ year max player has ever made in my experience - he didn't complain to the media when his post shots were cut down just after the prime of his career. He just did his job, followed orders and perhaps decided to move on instead of inconveniencing the team.

P.S. Why on earth would there be a pick n roll where the resulting play is Howard takes a well covered hook shot?

 

I love me some Dwight during the playoffs

Also don't think JB is a good enough coach to run a offense for harden&Howard duo

 

Wow, thank goodness our 2nd best player who we're paying $20 million outplayed the other team's 4th/5th/6th best player in the Playoffs. Great stuff Dwight!

 

Dwight has been a horror show on offense this season and numbers show it. His Offensive RPM is -0.35 and Offensive BPM is -0.9. By any measure, he's had a negative impact on this team offensively. Keep in mind that Dwight still boasts second highest usage rate behind Harden, so it's not like this is an one-off issue that we can just brush aside. Combined with his increasingly mediocre defense, Dwight's not even worth $15 mil, let alone $20 mil. I know people want to throw positive light on him due to nostalgia or whatever, but personally I'm sick and tired of him sabotaging our offense and glad to hear he's finally leaving.

 

Well first Im not talking about last year. I'm not talking about the playoffs either Dwight for some reason seems to come to his senses in the playoffs and I've stated that already in this thread. Secondly everything I said was true and I believe it or else I wouldn't have said it. Im not seeing whats so hard to understand Dwight doesn't want to pick and roll he wants to post up and it usually ends up badly.

 

I feel like this is a bizarre thread.

Are you blaming Dwight for accepting $20m/season from the Rockets when at least a few other NBA teams were offering it at the time?

Or are you saying that winning the C matchup virtually all the time against opponent C's (who are the 5th/6th best players on their teams) is not HUGE value? Should I shame you into the fact that Jordan, Bogut and Chandler are among the best defensive C's in the league and he outplayed all of them? Yes I will. I did.

What do you think James Harden is? James Harden is playing in weakest field of SG's I can remember. The next best SG in the league is Klay Thompson. Who's after that? Bradley Beal? lol That doesn't make James Harden any less of a superstar than he is. It doesn't matter.

That's a position we're winning handily. I don't care if every PG in the league injects heroine tomorrow and Beverley becomes the best PG in the league. It's good.

Someone comes and tells you they'll win their position - 20% of positions on the court - almost every night against 30 teams, you pay that guy and you pay him well.

 

Ahh ok, I didn't realize you're picking and choosing specific parts of Dwight's Rocket career than fits into your narrative. Carry on then.

 

Morey royally screwed over the organization and fans by not getting a proven coach. If he doesn't land a star or two this summer, he's gonna look awfully bad.


I still think things could work out at the end of the day.

 

Bev/harden/KD/Beasley/Capella sounds good to me

We need a coach who knows how to stagger minutes. We need starters/bench to be in line ups together throughout the game

If Tim Duncan retires I could see Dwight going to SA, Boston, NY, or even GS

 

We are talking about what Dwight is now, how is what Dwight used to be relevant to the subject at hand? Your response is basically a response that a blinded fan that doesn't want Dwight to leave would say regardless of his play of late.

 

I'm tired of hearing about Dwight being such a great professional - he's a clown. He's shooting 3 pointers all the time in warm-ups. If he was such a hard worker, he'd know how to make free throws by now. Chris Webber did it. Karl Malone did it. Others have done it. I don't buy his nonsense excuses. Dominique Wilkins said it exactly how it is the other night - these players don't make their free throws b/c they don't put in the time.

It's all about cost. Dwight's not going to accept $15M a year. If he does, welcome him back with open arms, but he's not going to do that. He's going to go for the most money. I also believe that even if the Rockets matched the highest bidder, there are a lot of teams Dwight would prefer to go to. He's not pumped about being DeAndre. And we're not winning, which usually fixes everything.

 

Mathloom is shutting down this thread. A very bizarre thread indeed. Some of us have really short memories.

 

That narrative is tiresome. We have no idea what goes on behind the scenes or what Morey truly thinks. I don't buy the concept of Morey not believing in the value of coaching as I'd wager that was taken out of context and then became gospel when things don't work out.

 

They should bench him now, and start Capella, and dust off Tjones.

No need to ride him in any capacity, in fact he should be cut if there weren't S&T possibilities, let the young guys feel the playoff push.

DD

 

Better than the "best player" not showing up.

Who no-showed/struggled against Portland? Who fails to play defense? Who set the playoff record for turnovers in a game? Who's on pace to set the turnover record?

We lambaste Dwight for wanting it in the post when it's a missed basket/turnover waiting to happen(I agree) but keep letting Harden handle the rock, a turnover and made bucket the other way waiting to happen. 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 times a game. Makes sense.

 

I agree he's shutting it down and ruining constructive thought. There is no use in crying over what a player who wants to leave USED to be.