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Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. Space Ghost

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    Do you even try to comprehend what you write? How do tax cuts for the rich suck money out of the poor and middle class? Are you implying the poor and middle class are forced to make up the difference?
    There will always be a poor class. Just accept it and move on. Democratic policies like Obamacare is what hurts the middle class. Raising taxes only hurts the middle class. The wealthy will find new ways to avoid paying those taxes, or if they must, it wont hurt them that much.

    Either way, Im not going to argue whether we should raise or lower taxes on certain classes, I only want to state your argument is just as flawed as the one youre railing....which ironically enough, is party line thinking.
     
  2. Cohete Rojo

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    1. What's with the personal attack? I haven't said anything about tax cuts.
    2. Trump's rhetoric has not been focused on tax cuts as much as it has on tariff regimes and illegal immigration.
    3. How have tax cuts for the rich been "sucking" anything from the middle-class and poor?

    4. Could you please provide evidence of and show significance for this "investing it over seas or in real estate"? I don't quite understand what you are trying to say - you will have to illustrate further what you mean.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    What personal attack? Don't be so sensitive.

    You are saying that people vote for/against their own interest but did not explain why - the implication is tax policy. So you think illegal immigration (which economics show to be a net positive to Americans) and tariff regimes will somehow magically change everything? You do understand the consequences of a trade war don't you?

    As for number 3 - see below.


    Tax cuts result in less money injecting into the economy over time as spending ultimately declines (relative to inflation). This is reflected for instance that unemployment insurance is still capped at $400/week for instance after 20 years. It's not only the poor that get UI By the way. Thus you are effectively redistributing wealth from the middle and poor to the rich - it's no wonder that the wealth skew is the worst it has ever been since 1929 - right before the last crash.

    How do you figure that raising taxes on the top 2% hurts the middle class? Where do you get they will find ways to avoid paying taxes?

    Your arguments don't hold water - you are just making reckless statements. You say my argument is flawed yet you don't point out the flaw, you use straw man's and dismiss it as "party-line" thinking.
     
  4. Dairy Ashford

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    Out of the five possible guesses, two are unabashed liberals, two would be campaigning for Parliament, and all of them are dead.
     
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    so...it's in the interest of working-class Americans to have running trade and currency wars with everybody, as well as barring immigrant entrepreneurs?

    I mean I do think some people in the States got f**ked by free trade, but saying that Trump voters are voting for their self-interest at this point is lol.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah, I had no clue who he was talking about so I looked it up.....if you had given me literally 5,000 guesses, I wouldn't have come up with that name as the answer to "who is the greatest actor of all time?"
     
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    Aaron Carter?
     
  9. jo mama

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    dont forget POW's, who according to trump are not heroic b/c they were captured.

    republicans always like to portray themselves as the party that supports the troops and the military while the democrats actually hate the troops, but here we have their presidential candidate slandering our military...how can someone who says something so insulting be commander-in-chief?

    just further evidence that his supporters are cult members who dont care what he actually says. he was on the tv and he gonna make amer'ca great again!:rolleyes:
     
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    wow, I thought Trump-Hillary dynamics would be hilarious to watch and now that state polls are starting to come in--like s**t, Trump is losing to Hillary in UTAH. And neck-to-neck in Arizona.

    http://www.inquisitr.com/2909060/hi...a-would-turn-blue-in-a-clinton-vs-trump-race/

    http://www.abc15.com/news/state/poll-arizona-voters-split-between-presidential-candidates

    Trump could flip NY, Michigan, PA, AND Ohio...and it wouldn't matter if he had to play defense in Utah, North Carolina and Arizona.

    bloodbath potential if this holds up.

    Go Trump go!
     
  11. bingsha10

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    Those polls don't mean anything right now. Utah Republicans will get upset for a while when Cruz doesn't win the nomination but they are going to hold their nose and vote for Trump.
     
  12. pippendagimp

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOKi5YeNtRI
     
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    Damn, I was hoping yall would keep going.
     
  17. pippendagimp

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    i don't care much for an article coming from a muppet of the clinton crime family. but getting back to the video i posted, it's rather hard to make the argument that this guy has flipflopped on his platform. if anything, he should be criticized for not even being able to expand his vocabulary in 25+ years -- i mean that video is word-for-word verbatim his current stump speech from town to town rite now
     
  18. Dubious

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    If you think Rockets Legend is an overly enthusiastic Orwellian, you should see the Trump fanboys on Reddit. This age of the anonymous voice of unsubstantiated statements is so frustrating. I'm glad I'm old with no kids, I don't have to care.

    Chaos Is Coming!
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