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What are all these former players so threaten by what Steph Curry is doing?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by what, Mar 17, 2016.

  1. mikus

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    There's a difference between saying Curry is now the greatest shooter in NBA history vs saying he's just the GOAT. I think people are getting that somewhat confused. Curry is currently the best player in the NBA this season and it's not even close and he's gaining acknowledgement as probably the greatest shooter the NBA has ever seen. That's a very far leap from the GOAT and anyone who's putting Curry in that discussion has definitely jumped the gun by nearly a decade. We need to see what he continues to do in his career.
     
  2. wekko368

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    Why not? Hand-checking is effective against offensive players as they move towards the basket. If Curry tried driving towards the basket and was hand-checked, he'd simply shoot a step-back jumper.
     
  3. hakeemthagreat

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    Hand checking is effective against guys moving forward AND side to side. It impedes the progress of the person you're guarding. So a good enough defender like GP, would basically push Curry where he wanted to go. Those little untouched drives to the basket Curry gets, would be met with alot more hard fouls. We all know Curry doesn't do well with getting knocked down. Back then he'd be on the ground the WHOLE game, with ALOT more contact then he gets now. Like I say, the game back then was more competitive and harder to score.
     
  4. wekko368

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    Ok....hand-checking is effective against guys moving forward and to the side. Why wouldn't that be neutralized by Curry's step back jumper?
     
  5. rocketman12

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    When did Payton of Max ever hand check anyone 94ft? Stop exaggerating. It's like when people bring up Anthony mason or Oakley. Yeah the Warriors would have played them twice so I guess they are okay for the other 80 games.

    What is your definition of competitive? There's been 5 different champions this decade. How was playing against the 72 win bulls team somehow more competitive?

    Basketball is a non contact sport. This isn't football. Guys weren't meant to elbow each other as a sign of manhood. Actually the way basketball was meant to be played with was with white dudes in short shorts, shooting set shots into peach baskets with no shot clock.
     
  6. rocketman12

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    Harder to score? Don't look at the box scores from the 80s then.
     
  7. tksense

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    Based on?

    So how come they used to score more points per game than this era?
     
  8. hakeemthagreat

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    Pick up 94ft? They did this quite often lol. Where were you??? The best person to do this was a guy named Derek Harper, probably top 5 on the ball defender ever. No need to exaggerate. There's no way Curry would last a full playoff series vs Oakley & Mason defense. Those guys played PHYSICAL. I can tell you haven't watched much basketball kid

    Stop it, please stop. The fact you're implying LESS physicality is good for the game means you have no idea what competitive basketball looks like. Dude have you played basketball before? I bet not. A game with little contact is basically WNBA. You can't realistically compete against a player you can barely touch. The game has gone corporate and loss it's edge. True basketball heads know this

    I'm not saying Curry wouldn't score at all. I'm saying his shots would be highly contested, with better more physical players putting their weight on him.
     
  9. wekko368

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    Based on what? If you're going to make a compelling argument, you'll have to do better than "hand-checking".
     
  10. pippendagimp

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    MJ has 6 playoff MVP trophies. curry has zero.

    there is a reason you are the biggest laughingstock of a poster on this bbs, so much so that we actually welcome and enjoy your threads and posts here, if only to make this crap season somewhat bearable with the court jester providing some much needed off-court humor.
     
  11. hakeemthagreat

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    Wait what? Have you not watched NBA basketball in the 80's & 90's? If you did then it should be self explanatory
     
  12. rocketman12

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    I was born in 1979 dude. Been watching basketball since 1986. I was on the varsity high school team from 95-97. I still play at the gym. You really think those Knicks/heat playoff games from the 90s were good for basketball? I like watching basketball where players don't act like cavemen.

    The 90s are long gone. The softness of today's game is overrated. Adequate contact is allowed. I want to see players be able to shoot and drive without cheap shots. Society has evolved. So has basketball.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    Curry is not even in the conversation for BEST EVER . . . PERIOD

    Rocket River
    What Have you done for me Lately mentality
     
  14. rocketman12

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    scoring was higher from 1974-1993 than it is now. So I guess hand checking couldn't stop tom chambers.
     
  15. Giant9erRocket

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    No matter what he does from now until the end of his career (Wins 10+ championships, Wins 10+ MVPs awards) he will never be considered GOAT. That title will always go to MJ and to some here on the board including myself Hakeem because they were TWO-WAY unstoppable players.

    As someone stated GSW as a team is literally breaking the game. It's like they have a hack automatic turbo button that no one has figured out yet. Do you guys really think if they switched Curry with say Westbrook they still wouldn't be the #1 team and on the road to winning a championship?

    Curry in the 90s 80s would have been scared to drive into the paint and the player he is today would have never been able to blossom. His driving skills would be diminished and players would only respect his outside shot and thus hand check him all day and make him take off balance 3s. Hell his dad was one of the best pure shooters at the time and that is all he did was shoot outside and rarely ever tried driving it to the paint.

    Lastly, the amount of showboating he does on a daily basis would get a Karl Malone/Oakley elbow to his soft face. Yet in this day and age, the media is hyping all his stupid swagger mannerisms like he's god on the court.
     
  16. Giant9erRocket

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    Also I forgot to add, if I were the GM for GSW I wouldn't even entertain the idea of bringing in Durant if they won a 2nd title this year. This team needs to stick together and the puzzle is complete. They have the perfect system/chemistry going and Durant could very well ruin what they have going on.
     
  17. tksense

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    I suggest those of you who believes this to watch some tapes. Yes we loved the 80s 90s ball, but to short-change Curry in this jealous fashion is just sour grapes.
     
  18. rocketman12

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    Scoring was higher in the 80s and early 90s than today during this alleged tough defense era that was the 80s and 90s.
     
  19. hlcc

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    Harder fouls don't equal better defense. Teams today play much better defense when compared to teams from the 80s & 90s.
     
  20. wekko368

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    Yes, I did. And Curry wouldn't have a problem overcoming hand-checking. Like I said before, hand-checking affects an offensive player's ability to move forward and laterally. It wouldn't impact a player's ability to shoot a step back jumper.

    If you really think hand-checking would lead to "highly contested" shots, you should be able to explain why.
     

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