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What are all these former players so threaten by what Steph Curry is doing?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by what, Mar 17, 2016.

  1. what

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  2. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    No handing checking has totally changed the game. Curry would not get nearly as many looks as he does not without the rule change. He would still be the best shooter ever to play the game, but he wouldn't get as many opportunities if he were playing in the 90's. Riley would have sent him to the ground as soon as he touched the ball.
     
  3. underrated015

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    Curry doesnt scare the former players by his physique or his jumping ability but he is just shredding the nba right now. They cant believe it just like we cant. Want them to break the record now
     
  4. what

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    Old man basketball:

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  5. DreamEarlNolan

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    Curry is a great player, and very well may be the best shooter that has ever played, but it could be argued he isn't even the best player on his team. Draymond Green is the straw that stirs the Warriors drink. Regarding the comparisons between Jordan and Curry, Jordan's defense was vastly superior to Curry's. Curry is great, but he isn't on the level of Jordan.
     
  6. OTMax

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    80% jealousy and ego, 10% because of too much (sudden) hype and 10% because of the legit or not knock that he doesn't play in a physical era and does not have to do the dirty work like many stars before him.
     
  7. rocketman12

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    Why does it matter? In the 90s curry was 2-11 years old. The 90s are long gone.

    How often did Riley ever really send shooters to the floor? Hardly ever. Nolstagia clouding actual reality of what happened.
     
  8. Tom Bombadillo

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    Curry has played 2 years of great basketball. He has a LONG way to go to even be a top 50 player of all time.
     
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    Nope, he's already in the top 50. 2 MVPs (including this season), 1 championship, and the distinction of being the greatest shooter of all time?
     
  10. hakeemthagreat

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    A young people seem to think nothing came before them, as if they're the first & only to witness something. Um, yea:rolleyes:

    Bottom line, the game is SOFT now. Players are basically handed championships.
     
  11. Caesar

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    You believe Steph Curry is more decorated than Michael Jordan was at 27?

    College
    NCAA National Championship - University of North Carolina: 1981-82(GAME WINNING SHOT)
    3x Atlantic Coast Conference regular season champions: 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84 (undefeated)
    1982 ACC Tournament champions
    ACC Rookie of the Year: 1982
    Naismith College Player of the Year: 1984
    John R. Wooden Award: 1984
    Adolph Rupp Trophy: 1984
    USBWA College Player of the Year: 1984
    ACC Athlete of the Year: 1984
    ACC Men's Basketball Player of the Year: 1984
    2x The Sporting News College Player of the Year: 1983, 1984
    2x Consensus First Team All-American: 1983, 1984
    1983 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament East Regional All-Star Team

    United States National Team
    Pan American Games gold medal: 1983
    USA Basketball male athlete of the year: 1983, 1984

    NBA
    At 27 years old, played 509 regular season games for a career average of 32.6PPG on 52%FG, 6.3RPG, 5.9APG, 2.8SPG, 1.1BPG, 3.1TOV

    Career PER of 30.2, 59.4TS%, 27.1AST%, 3.6STL%, 1.7BLK%, 33.6USG%, 82.6OWS, 30.1 DWS, 112.7 WS

    At 27 years old, played 70 Playoff games.
    34.6PPG, 50.9FG%, 6.8RPG, 7.1APG, 2.5SPG, 1.1BPG, 3.5TOV

    30.2PER, 59.2TS%, 33.5AST%, 3.1STL%, 1.8BLK%, 34.8USG, 11.4OWS, 5.1DWS, 16.5WS

    1X Champ
    1X FMVP
    2XMVP
    1XDPOTY
    5 straight Scoring Titles
    2X Steals Leader
    7X All Star
    1X All Star MVP
    2X IBM Award Winner(stopped giving it out in 2002)
    5X All NBA 1st Team
    1X All NBA 2nd Team
    4X All NBA Defensive First Team
    Rookie of The Year Award
    2X Slam Dunk Champion

    Playoff Record 63 points against the '86 Celtics
    Career High 69 points
    The only player in history with 200 steals and 100 blocks in 2 different seasons. 17 blocks away from doing it 3 times.
    Switched to Point Guard for the Final 24 games in 1989-Averaged 30.42 ppg at 51% FG, 10.71 apg, 9.2 rpg, 2.45 spg & .91 bpg, 12 Triple Doubles, barely missing another 4 1 or 2 stats. 7 Triple Doubles in a row, 10 in 11 games.

    Only player in NBA history to record back-to-back 50-point games in the playoffs(50,55). Missed it a 2nd time by 1 point. (49, 63)

    Scored over 3K Points at 23 years old.

    Every Team MJ's Bulls lost to made it to the NBA Finals and lost there or won with the exception of the Bucks in MJ's rookie year, a team which also had 3 all stars of their own.
    Led team to Semi Finals 1X, ECF 2X with only 1 other all star(Pippen in Jordans 26 year old campaign, Pip failed to make it when MJ was 27.)Won Title in 91.

    There are probably tons more accomplishments i can't think of or easily find right now. Keep in mind MJ turned 28 in FEB of 91 IIRC, while Curry just turned 28 a few days ago.


    SO..Perhaps you meant to say the Warriors are more accomplished than the Bulls as a team at their respective superstars 27-28 year old age. Of course that is if you are one of those who finds their last Post Season run of facing the Pelicans without their starting PG, the Grizzlies missing their starting pg for several games, the Rockets missing their starting pg, and The Cavs missing their superstar PG and PF to be an impressive feat.
     
  12. bulkatron

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    I think - I hope - that he meant that Curry is more hyped, and not more decorated.

    Curry is no MJ.

    But he doesn't deserve the disrespect from guys like Big O.
     
  13. rocketman12

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    So what if it's soft? Why is soft basketball a bad thing? Why is having things unecessarily difficult better?

    Everything in the world is soft now. Do you wear a suit and a hat to go shopping in 99 degree weather like the 50s? Then you must be soft. Do you go to the outhouse at 3am in 10 degree weather to use the restroom? Then you must be soft. Did you send a email instead of writing a letter? Then you must be soft.

    so why do people like it when life is more difficult for you?
     
  14. what

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    @ceaser: Now list the accomplishments that MJ did at 27 that no other player in history has done.

    Curry: 300 3 pointers in a season (nobody in the history of the league has done that). Lead a team to a 73+ win season.

    Right now Curry could end up with a TS% of the 3rd or 4th highest of all time. Above Wilt, MJ, Larry and the rest.

    Only Korver, Tyson Chandler and Gilmore would be better, and he is doing this shooting some of the most ridiculous shots in the nba.



    Most of what you said about MJ LOOKS good on paper, but isn't all that revolutionary. For example, Wilt scored 100 points in 1 game. Michael's 63? Pails in comparison.
     
  15. JayGoogle

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    What?

    So now MJ's accomplishments only look good on paper? You've made the point that Curry is a better shooter than MJ, that's fine...and Hakeem is a better shot blocker than Curry or MJ? The Point?

    We are talking about the best players of all time. Curry with his 2 MVPs (since he's a shoe-in this year) and his 1 championship doesn't get in the top 10.

    If he continues to win then yes, but that's not a given. I think the old timers are just insulted that winning one championship can get a man this much praise.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    And to be clear - this is the same "hand checking" tough 90's defense, that, for most of the 90's u, gave up more points per play than their contemporary counterparts.
     
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    Lol stopped reading after the MJ part. Curry isn't even remotely as good at Magic, Bird, MJ, Kobe, or LBJ
     
  18. what

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    I tend to value statistics and championships and team accomplishments over awards. That is why I haven't mentioned Curry's MVP once in this discussion.

    Mike's 63, and his dpoy awards, allstar bids, slam dunk trophies are nice on a resume, but when it gets down to it. The 73 wins, plus the 300+ 3s, plus the fact that he is about to go 50/40/90 in a season that he is going to record maybe 400 3s this year.

    That is astonishing.

    MJ astonishment was due to his athletic ability and ability to score.
     
  19. hakeemthagreat

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    Because it makes the game not nearly as competitive. Are you going to ask me "so what it's not competitive" next? You can't reasonably play a good game of basketball if you can't touch guys on the perimeter. That's not basketball. Curry's a great shooter but can't take a hard foul. Are you telling me he'd be putting up these crazy stats with Vernon Maxwell or Gary Payton handchecking him 94ft? Wouldn't happen
     
  20. pahiyas

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    you're giving too much value on a 1 game difference (72 v 73) as if it is 1 v 2.

    If your PROJECTION pans out in 5 years, no one will argue with you, at least I won't.
     

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