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Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by stthomsfinest, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. DudeWah

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    Do you intentionally try as hard as possible to be wrong?

    Because really, I mean really... Everyone heard reigns get drowned in boos last night except for you apparently.
     
  2. Scolalist

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    I watched Raw and did not hear that. Triple H cut one of his classic heel promos and that got way more boos and people were going crazy cheering during that beatdown. This won't be the best match at WM but it will be damn good, no one puts together a match like HHH or really can cut a heel promo like he can. Just let Reigns brawl and for a big man Roman Reigns has one of the most athletic movesets out of anyone in wrestling history.

    Reigns/Lesnar last year delivered, I know this can too.

    Reigns in fact has been apart of many top matches of the year. Bryan last year at Fastlane, The Lesnar/Ambrose triple threat, Bray Wyatt HIAC. He knows how to work a great match and I really don't think he should get the same criticism as say John Cena, he outperforms him every time he's given a chance.
     
  3. Scolalist

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    And the last two years of WWE with Bryan hurt and Lesnar doing half of the part time schedule he's working now have been the Shield guys putting the company on their backs and busting there ass main eventing just about every show televised or not. He's earned the spot and these are the guys who deserve to be rewarded.

    It's why you give Dean Ambrose, Brock Lesnar at WM or a WWE Title Match vs HHH or the final man eliminated in the RR about an hour after wrestling in one of the most brutal street fights with KO that I've ever seen.
     
  4. vinsensual

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    I'm impressed by his top rope suicide dive, very surprised when he pulled it out the first time. But what else in his moveset would be considered athletic?
     
  5. Scolalist

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    The running kick outside. It's not like the Rock or Stone Cold could pull that off. He's shown some suplexes, running powerbombs. Along with Lesnar & Taker he's punches look legit.
     
  6. tmac2therack

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    Well we all know now that the Scolalist is a Roman Reigns mark...Gah he sucks so so so much.
     
  7. Junkyard_Dog

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    One thing they have been smart about with Reigns is they haven't let him talk much lately. But he needs to talk eventually
     
  8. Scolalist

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    No I'm not but he's not bad. I guess I'm just not a smark like you
     
  9. K-Low_4_Prez

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    Roman isn't as bad as some of you try to make him out to be... Ge has grown alot in his time on the main roster and still has a ways to go but he isn't a bad wrestler by any means. He doesn't need to have a crazy moveset because he has the look to make other moves work.
     
  10. DudeWah

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    I like Roman Reigns a lot. His mic work sucks.

    It's creative's direction with him I don't like. Actually lately it's been good. It was just that period between when Rollins got injured and he won the title back from Sheamus that really hurt him. Fully the writing's fault.
     
  11. K-Low_4_Prez

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    What else would you of had them do? I mean it was pretty clear that with Cena, Orton and Rollins out that Roman was the next guy in line and in order to make people believe in him you have to have him pull a super cena and just crush everyone. I love Dean and all but It was always clear that Roman was going to get his shot before Dean.

    And I think alot of people tend to forget what the target audience is... The WWE is for kids, it just is. And Roman is very popular with kids and I'm not sure Deans character is very kid friendly. (I say that cause he reminds me of like a Pillman character who as a kid always scared me and I didn't care for at all.) so I think it makes sense for them to really try and get some steam behind Roman.

    All the smarks that b**** and moan about it just need to realize the WWE isn't ever going to cater to them because they are going to watch no matter what. Like it has gotten to the point where I'm not sure what Roman can do to keep smarks from booing him, I'm not even sure he could do anything cause at this point they are booing just to boo.
     
  12. DudeWah

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    I agree the boo'ing is excessive and there's really no reason to boo him anymore.

    The problem is right in your post. Reigns should not have been the next guy in line. Giving him the Cena treatment didn't help anything. Everyone knew it was always going to be Reigns. The predictability is a problem.

    We can disagree about people who b**** and moan. Because again, if WWE was doing as good a job as you or scolalist think they are, the ratings wouldn't be drop dead bad.

    Catering to kids doesn't mean doing stupid things.

    The problem with the writing is that too often when it's obvious something needs to happen they go away from it. And something that no one wants to happen they ensure it does happen.

    Examples: Batista winning royal rumble, Sheamus winning money in the bank, not putting the belt on Ambrose, not turning Reigns or Ambrose heel, putting styles in yet another feud with Jericho, never pushing Cesaro after he won the Andre the giant battle royal, making Owens lose to Cena every time after he beat him in his first match

    Explain to me the thought process behind any of those things.

    The other other other issue is that "wins and losses don't matter"

    Seriously who the hell thought making road dogg lead writer of anything was a good idea?
     
  13. K-Low_4_Prez

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    I agree that they have made mistakes and I don't think the product is perfect at all. I love the surprises and hate the predictability as much as anyone. I just don't see the point in blaming Roman for all of it or acting like he is the problem. Cause at the end of the day I'm sure he and HHH will tell a great story at WM and its up to the audience to go into it with an open mind.

    If you go into it saying you hate it and saying its going to be horrible and I'm going to boo when Roman wins is just crapping on wrestling. And I think sometimes the right move is predictable and I think right now Roman needs this and this is his chance to shine with so many guys out. And he Is a valueble asset to the future of WWE.
     
  14. DudeWah

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    Again. I'll reiterate this. Roman himself is not a problem.

    It's how he was built up. You realize he's gonna be a 3x world champion after he wins at wrestlemania? That's the biggest joke there is.

    No one should be alright with how lazy of writing that is to put Roman in that situation.

    They should have had Sheamus cash in during the middle of the Reigns-Ambrose match if they didn't intend to turn either heel. Roman would have been screwed by a cash in for the second time. Then he does everything the same basically after that. It would be more meaningful because Roman would have won his first title on RAW.

    I am entirely certain the crowd would have been a little more receptive to that. Would he still be getting boo'd? Probably, but I think it would be less than it is now.
     
  15. Indaface

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    Yea I have no problem with Roman himself other than his lack of promo ability but redoing the "Daniel Bryan" story with him is about as lazy and dumb as it can get.

    With Bryan there was always a cinch of reality to it with Roman it all just feels so fake from Vince hating him to him trying to garner sympathy with his promos. Just doesn't interest me.
     
  16. sealclubber1016

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    It's 100% the companies fault that Reigns is in this situation, no doubt about it.For one they pushed him before his ring work was ready. Now the stigma of him being an awful performer is gonna hang around, despite the fact that he has turned into a perfectly capable guy in the ring.

    Secondly they pushed him with every ounce of push they had. Over the course of a few months they had Big Show, Orton, and Daniel Bryan put him over. Then he won the rumble, and then they were gonna have Lesnar put him over (and by virtue of beating Lesnar, he was effectively being put over by Takers streak). It was far too much for a guy who wasn't really that over. They demanded the fans like this guy, regardless of their feelings, and fans responded as they typically do. A by product of this over push is that no other young guys were given any kind of push for almost 2 years, They put all their eggs in that basket, and so far it hasn't worked out, and they are starless.

    Lastly they never let him show any personality. His promos all sound extremely wooden. He needs to be a silent badass if his natural charisma isn't good enough. Anything is better than now, because his promos are a struggle, and that's the biggest element of being a star.

    I said it a while back, if he's ever gonna be the mega star they want, he's gonna have to have a heel run first. They blew this face build, and now some people are never, ever gonna give him the benefit of the doubt, even if he deserves it. I myself don't hate him, I'm just completely indifferent. I'm really not the smarky guy that cheers the heels, and boos the faces, but I know when I'm invested in a performer and want to see them win, and I haven't had that feeling about Reigns in a long time. Compare him to a guy like Cesaro who is bigger, stronger, a better physique, equally athletic and is one of this best wrestlers on the planet. He isn't so hot on the mic, but neither is Reigns. Despite being superior or equal to Reigns in all regards, Reigns gets the push effectively because he has pretty hair.
     
  17. K-Low_4_Prez

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    I'm reading on the internet that Sting has retired... I'm glad I went to NOC and got the chance to see his final match live and didn't just count on him being at mania.
     
  18. VanityHalfBlack

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    Vince should give this guy a spot at Wrestlemania. Pure Genius.

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  19. vinsensual

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    holy balls
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  20. Scolalist

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    I think Ambrose is going own WM. I think he pulls it out v Lesnar & then turns on Reigns in the main joining the Authority.

    Love seeing him with Terry Funk though
     

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