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Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. Pest_Ctrl

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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/a83PBf1UrIs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Very presidential
     
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  2. mr. 13 in 33

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump supporter: &quot;Riots aren't necessarily a bad thing&quot; <a href="https://t.co/Zh0ABUgmF5">https://t.co/Zh0ABUgmF5</a></p>&mdash; TIME.com (@TIME) <a href="https://twitter.com/TIME/status/710248956132007936">March 16, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  3. RocketsLegend

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    So far the only people that rioted were the leftists.
     
  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Yes, the "leftists" will excuse all the next steps of your behavior. Tidy, that.
     
  5. RocketsLegend

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    Lets ignore the actual riots and focus on what one supporter said


    And when Trump said his supporter will riot he means if he is cheated out of the primary.
     
  6. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    So Trump and his supporters are thugs who are threatening to riot? Got it.
     
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    I don't think I'd compare Trump to a crazy dictator. That's a bit extreme. He certainly is powerhungry, and certainly a narcissist. But I have more faith in the American system that it was designed to prevent a Trump for turning us into a fascist state.

    The real danger with Trump is that he's just make a circus out of gov't and the U.S. would not be seen as a credible country. The whole world would laugh at us and the 8 years of repairing our image after Bush would be trumped by Trump.
     
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    You mean they're not laughing at us already? Putin is laughing, Khomeini is laughing, Assad is laughing.
     
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    What you mean cheated out of a primary? If Trump doesn't get to 1237 delegates, then he hasn't won anything and there is nothing to be cheated out of. Only that he's gotten a plurality of the delegates. That is what conventions are designed to solve.

    Now to be fair to Trump, traditionally the the runner-up in this situation would have an enormous advantage over every other candidate and would almost certainly become the nominee with a bit of political maneuvering at the convention such as striking a deal with the 3rd place candidate Rubio or Kasich for a spot on the ticket or position in the cabinet in exchange for consolidating the delegates and emerging victorious.

    However, Trump's scorched earth rhetoric and tactics have so alienated and insulted the other candidates that there is no way in hell Rubio or Kasich would support him at the convention regardless of what was offered to them by Trump. That's where Trump failed Party Politics 101: Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
     
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    Yeah, no; you're just "laughing" at the educated, accomplished black guy because violence and exclusion are no longer viable outlets.
     
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    I'm glad we live in a country where people can freely support who they want....that being said a Trump supporter should never call someone else a laughing stock. Unless it's about Trump vodka or Trump University.

    You're right, Obama should have started a war to shake off a label that many uneducated war hawking right wingers seem to throw around. The sheep can tell the lion that they're laughing, but it doesn't change what he already knows to be true.
     
  13. RocketsLegend

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    When did I ever talk about going to war? Were we ever in a war during the Reagan administration. Reagan toughness and determination ended the cold war, knocked down the Berlin wall and got back our hostages from Iran. These quality Obama doesn't have. You need to go to war in order for our enemies to respect us.
     
  14. Dairy Ashford

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    One of those guys has been dead for twenty five years.
     
  15. Dairy Ashford

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    Carter negotiated the release of hostages from Iran, they just waited until Reagan was inaugurated.
     
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    Reagan's toughness and determination... Lol. He was a freaking actor. US deficit spending is what bankrupted the Soviet Union. The Soviets didn't give a rat's ass about Reagan's little speeches. Do you even lift bro?
     
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    Your grasp of actual history is mistaken.

    Reagan traded arms to the terrorists who were in charge of Iran and had taken and held American hostages. Reagan did that all on his own.

    Reagan sent troops over to Lebanon, they were attacked and killed, and Reagan pulled up and ran after that.

    Of course Reagan was very tough when it came to invading Grenada.

    Reagan was tough against those who actually wanted to end Apartheid. He vetoed the sanctions against South Africa, but luckily congress over rode the veto.
     
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    I think you're getting too much attention already and I have no interest in "ganging up" on you. I respect that you're a Trump supporter who will actually post and dialogue with us. It's valuable to communicate, so thank you! Sincerely.

    But I wanted to say: I'm not at all focused on what one supporter said. I am focused like a laser, however, on what Donald Trump says. And what he says is often alarming -- not because it knocks convention or business as usual. It's fine to challenge business as usual politics. I am alarmed instead because what Donald Trump says often encourages some of our worst qualities as human beings: fear, anger, and hatred of those who are different. To me, that's what being born in "original sin" means. Those are lower order default human instincts, nearly animal like.

    So I see him as an anti-Christian, based purely on Christ's own words, for what that is worth.
     
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    What you say honestly describes what I've been listening to from GOP candidates for years now. Except Trump doesn't mince words.
     
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