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Are Macbooks worth it?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Outlier, Mar 12, 2016.

  1. ItsMyFault

    ItsMyFault Member

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    Not true. There was a white unibody MacBook around 2005-2011 or so that was referred to as "MacBook". I don't see as much of them anymore, but there are still some owners who have them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook
     
  2. HR Dept

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    I stand corrected. But I'd still bet that they're talking about the Pro or Air.
     
  3. likestohypeguy

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    This reminds me of the last episode of season 4, when Mr. Leery was insisting on an IBM t21 for Dawson's first year at USC, breaking down why it was awesome & the iBook that Dawson wanted was crap. Dawson tried the "Beatles or Elvis?" analogy to demonstrate that everyone's either strictly an apple or pc person, but Mr. Leery didn't care & bought him the t21 anyway.

    It was okay in the end though- Dawson refused to even use the it & pitched a big enough fit until Mr. Leery returned it for the iBook.
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    I have the Dell Chromebook 13 and it is much better than the crappy ones I have seen. Really nice screen, keyboard and construction.
     
  5. DrNuegebauer

    DrNuegebauer Member

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    Exactly...

    Don't buy into the 'must have mac' line... just get an android phone and sync it to a chrome book (/anything else) instead? Just the same, only better...
     
  6. Mr. Brightside

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    The mistake most people make in these arguments is they compare a $1200 Macbook with a $400 PC laptop. If you buy a $1200 PC laptop it will be comparable to the Macbook.
     
  7. Invisible Fan

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    Not sure if bright sided but the value is pronounced when comparing a high end pc laptop against an mbp. I've noticed pc laptops with retina caliber screens are generally around the same price or more.

    It's just that not everyone needs those features enough to justify the price points

    Op sounds like he's already half commited into getting one to show off at trendy baristas.
     
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  8. Outlier

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    Read my latest post.
     
  9. CCity Zero

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    are we talking about aesthetically?? Because if not, I can find you a pc for $600-1000 depending on market price that has the same or better specs and can run osx, so similar chipset/proc/memory/and resolution of display. The thing with pc is since there's multiple manufacturers it's easier to find systems cheaper, Apple can charge whatever they want and an Apple user will pay that price.

    Here's even an article talking about the same thing and these are pretty close aesthetically: http://www.itpro.co.uk/laptops/21797/macbook-pro-15in-v-dell-xps-15-head-to-head-review-2/page/0/7 now obviously at the end apple sounds great, but it's limited vs the pc offering in terms of upgrades and they also don't go into specifics about forcing them to run the same OS (and how the Mac vs pc would fair running similar os's).

    What I like most (and while it's changing slowly to not being able to do this..), is that currently I could still buy a lower spec'd laptop and change out memory/ssd, whereas apple is soldering/gluing stuff down. Apples solution is to sell you another systemboard for more ram (actually computer).
     
  10. CCity Zero

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    I guess to add is apple doesn't lower prices much as product is eol on their site because they don't have to.
     
  11. cheke64

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    Haven't read thru the thread but is this a disposable exam comp? I feel dirty after cheating on a test.
     
  12. DudeWah

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    Hackintosh had its time but the newer versions of OS X are more restricted and each new version will probably get harder to crack
     
  14. shorerider

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    As a business owner who takes time over money any day of the week, I'll say I have had owned and used both extensively. I ended up returning the Surface Book and kept the Mac for 2 reasons:

    1) The Mac touchpad. As much as I liked the Surface touchscreen and pen AND the SB's glass touchpad, the Mac's integration of its touchpad with all apps running on Mac OS is just more refined at this point compared to Windows.

    2) Bugs. Again, the Mac OS is more refined at this point than Windows 10, and thus the overall experience is just smoother in my experience. At the end of the day I get more done in the same amount of time, and with less headache.

    Now, with all that said, the difference is not so vast that I would've been unhappy with the Surface Book. I think it's an awesome product and believe MS will get where Apple is with its hardware/software ecosystem, and I will no doubt purchase one in the future. I think it's that cool of a concept.
     
  15. CCity Zero

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    Isn't the latest version El capitan? It's actually gotten easier for the install.. http://www.redmondpie.com/install-os-x-el-capitan-hackintosh-on-pc-heres-how-guide/ with unibeast but obviously tweaks and other issues could arise and apple isn't going to be there to help you. And obviously you're right, I mean going this route you have to be prepared and not do updates that could screw things up, and even be prepared if/once apple locks it down more. I was thinking more along the lines of a basic user you'd be okay for web/email, but as far as performance I'm sure there's going to be more to do that'll require you spend time tweaking it. If I personally needed osx for something I could not do through vm, then I'd probably get one if needed for some special work project.
     
  16. TexasFight

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    Thanks for the advice, gents. another question from a newb. My memory arrived today and I plan to install tonight. I'm ordering the 850 EVO on amazon.com today. I've googled instructions on how to install and clone my existing HD to my macbook (13" mid 2009) but haven't found a good single source of truth - just various sites providing their thoughts on best practices. either of you gents have a a go-to site for an instruction set that can help a newb from installation to cloning from end-to-end?
     
  17. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I've only owed MacBooks so I have bias but, that bias is because one lasted me 5 years and this new one is pushing two. Love them and bought both refurbished.
     
  18. Nick

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    They're worth it from a stability standpoint and seamless integration of other apple products.

    If you don't have other apple products, it would still do the job... but you may not get as much out of it, and there are cheaper PC alternatives that can serve basic needs.
     
  19. CCity Zero

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    Glad to help :) there are definitely a lot of sources around.. And different ways to approach this, but the good news is I think Mac makes it a bit more forgiving in some respects. Anyway, have you seen this article: http://www.cnet.com/how-to/upgrade-your-macbook-install-ssd-hard-drive/ CNET still has some decent articles buried.

    A few other options are to use carbon copy in place of superduper or do a clean install and then transfer files over. Unless you've had crazy issues though I think Carbon Copy or Superduper (this last one is free) will be fine, lastly once everything is done make sure to enable trim.

    Here's another guide explaining trim/cc: https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4741
    And similar steps: http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/how-to-replace-your-macbook-pros-hard-drive-with-an-ssd

    The main thing to start though is to have a USB to Sata plug/caddy (cheapest route vs other options) to attach the ssd to the computer prior to install (unless going clean install route). Attached articles reference this cable. I can get you clean install instructions but I think these methods should be good. After you're up and running it'll be like you bought a new computer, mechanical to ssd for the first time always amazes me (it's probably the best upgrade I've seen in almost 20 years (like going from 4mb of ram to 8, haha). Lastly you can always put your old drive in external caddy and use it for storage etc/extra backup.
     
  20. CCity Zero

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    One last thing the guides will mention is the screw driver sizes you'll need, make sure you have those/Order some. I know apple can some times use torx/pentalobe screws (currently on iphone, but I can't recall if on macs too atm). I definitely recommend using correct sizes because you want to avoid stripping, that's honestly about as crazy as it gets though... Just take time and follow steps (if first time opening mac).
     

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