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Bernie Sanders 2016 Feel the Bern!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. RocketsLegend

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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Anyone who threw bricks at police are in the wrong. Anyone who engages in violence is wrong. I'm not sure how we know it was Sanders supporters throwing bricks, but it doesn't matter. It was wrong.

    Have you spoken out against the Trump supporter who sucker punched the guy yet? Or the white supremacist Trump supporter who was shoving the woman?

    Have you spoken out against Trump for calling for violence in his speeches at the rallies?
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    These protesters are coming in looking for trouble, and they're behaving badly. Poking the bear and they crying about the response isn't fooling anybody.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Stop making excuses for violence.
     
  5. bigtexxx

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    Coming in unwelcomed and disrupting an event is an excuse to you? Most would call that egging others on, or looking for trouble.

    I agree the idiot that punched the protester was wrong, but you stay silent on the guy that rushed Donald Trump in Ohio? Totally hypocritical on your part, Donny. Certainly not surprising, however, given your posting history.
     
  6. HamJam

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    That's literally what Trump has done.
     
  7. TheresTheDagger

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    This entire conversation is so stupid I can't believe people can have it.

    BOTH sides are in the wrong. Anybody in this conversation that doesn't admit that confrontation, escalation, and baiting is wrong is just another d-bag rooting for "their" side by pointing fingers at the other.

    Trump is wrong for his inflamatory rhetoric. His supporters getting rough with individual protesters/agitators is wrong.

    Move on and BLM organizers are wrong. The protestors showing up and causing a disturbance are wrong. Their rhetoric is wrong.
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    Trump haters and attackers are the most hypocritical of all. Blinded by the same hate they criticize Trump for. They are no better than Trump in that regard.
     
  10. B-Bob

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    Pretty much agree w you. Protesting is fine and I support protesting trump b/c of his dangerous rhetoric, but I also think he should be able to speak and have rallies as a candidate.

    I only support nonviolent protesting that doesn't try to shout down or shut down.
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    As I've said before, anyone who uses violence is wrong, no matter if it's violence to attack Donald Trump, or a Protestor at a Trump rally.

    That being said, only one candidate has encouraged that kind of behavior from his supporters. That is Donald Trump.
     
  12. Scolalist

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    Free speech is a two way road.
     
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    Any violence is wrong. So is trying to shout down political opponents.

    It's an election. Protest at the ballot box.
     
  15. peleincubus

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    welp this "election season" has now jumped the shark. and it is STILL 8 MONTHS away.

    apparently you can not criticize donald freakin trump with out being hypocritical.

    and as bigtexxx says you are "poking the bear"


    i'm out. i will probably read D&D from time to time, but no longer posting. the iq quotient has been divided down too far.

    f***ing idiots. seriously ipaman one of the most rock solid statmets i've heard in quite a while.
     
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    Trump explicitly encourages violence among his supporters, and when a few of them actually follow through with it, he refuses to acknowledge that he might have had something to do with it.

    Bernie explicitly encourages his supporters to "come together" and to treat each other as they themselves wish to be treated. When a few of those supporters act up, he condemns their actions.

    We're not talking about a subtle difference here.
     
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    He's not saying Trump should be held responsible because someone did something, he's saying Trump should be held responsible specifically because of what he's saying about "kicking people's ass" and using rhetoric that both directly and indirectly encourages violence. I would be up all night If I dug up such quotes. Bernie has condemned violence at every turn.
     
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    Beat me to it, nice to see you out again CCR.
     
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    It kind of stumps me that people confuse the tenor of two campaigns. They could not be more different. I guess it's an extension of the Rovian tactics of painting your opponent with your own weakness. But, Mr. Sanders is about uniting people to vote for their own best interest. I'd prefer to keep Mr. Trump out of the Berie thread altogether but suffice to say Mr. Trumps campaign is about dividing people into groups by fear, you know, the exact polar opposite of Mr. Sanders.


    AP) -
    Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump blames Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders for increasingly frequent disruptions at the GOP hopeful's massive campaign rallies, and he says he has the answer: Send his supporters to Sanders' rallies.

    Sanders on Sunday offered a reply: Bring `em on.

    Trump took to Twitter on Sunday, writing that the Vermont senator is "lying when he says his disruptors aren't told to go to my rallies. Be careful Bernie, or my supporters will go to yours!"

    The answer followed from Sanders' official Twitter account: "Send them. They deserve to see what a real honest politician sounds like."

    Both Sanders and Trump have roused their supporters by railing against international trade agreements and decades of wage stagnation.

    But Sanders, along with Trump's Republican rivals, have noted that Trump adds caustic rhetoric about immigration, drawing protesters who end up clashing with his supporters.


    http://www.kwwl.com/story/31459036/...urce=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link
     
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    The answer followed from Sanders' official Twitter account: "Send them. They deserve to see what a real honest politician sounds like."


    That's a great response from Sanders. You don't have much of a chance winning Trump supporters over, but you will never do so with hatred and aggression. Furthermore, you will lose your own supporters as soon as you stoop to Trump's level.
     

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