Dont agree Trump wins Florida if Rubio drops out. How many Rubio voters do you really think are gonna vote for trump? I think very few.
It was Cruz that claimed the SEC states were his firewall. A myth invented by Cruz. Ted Cruz made the case Sunday that he can win the Republican nomination because of his strength in the South. “I view the SEC primary as a firewall,” Cruz confided to the audience. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news.../ted-cruz-looking-to-build-southern-firewall/
Disagree. I think they simply stay home. Neither choice is acceptable to Rubio voters. I'm one of them.
I second that. I voted for Rubio and can't stand the lunacy of either Trump or Cruz. Donald has made everyone else look rational and sane otherwise Cruz would still be a pariah and the same toxic waste no one in the Senate still wants to touch. Cruz's policies are Trump light edition minus the overt xenophobic rhetoric. Those who continue to argue Marco should drop out and get behind Cruz or that both their delegate counts would defeat Trump, fail to realize that Marco's voters would rather stay home or vote for Kasich, which is what I would do given the situation. That's the been the voter logic. Kasich siphoned votes from Rubio in Virginia. Rubio can tap into Cruz's voter bloc if only as a protest against Trump, but no the other way around for Cruz. He is despised by everyone to his left.
Trump won NEw Hampshire and is looking like he can beat Hillary in New York. Your analysis shows your own disgusting biases and is wrong.
This is the part the "angry" portion of the party never understood. I guess they felt they were the only portion of the party entitled to get angry. Now, the Cruz and Trump supporters have just worn out the rational portion of the party. We're not mad anymore. We're resigned. Resigned to the fact our party has finally once and for all left us. When Marco Rubio...A TEA PARTY conservative elected just 6 years ago starts being mentioned as "establishment"...that's the final proof to me I no longer share the values of the "new" republican party. After this election, I consider myself an independent.
Are you going to pretend that there is no hatred in his message? Is there not a history of racism in the deep South (particularly among the conservative base)? Him winning New Hampshire and expecting to win New York is irrelevant to why he is dominating the conservative/religious South (as Cruz is far more conservative and religious). People have many reasons to support him.
I am not a Trump fan, but no I don't see hatred in his speech. He just seems immature and ignorant. He isn't dominating the South. No more than Hillary is dominating the South. She must be doing it with her message of hate right?
So clearly this contest is coming down to a two-man race. Rubio is not resonating, despite repeated herculean efforts of the Republican establishment and the media, especially Fox News, to prop him up. John Kasich has never been a factor. Also, Trump has done well in "open" contests, but going forward most contests will be "closed," which means that Democrats and independents will not be able to vote in them. Enough is enough. It is time for Rubio and Kasich to exit the race. Of course whenever it suits the purposes of the Republican establishment, they are all about supporting the will of the people and getting behind the leading candidates like Romney and McCain. This election is when they must demonstrated that they can provide the same support to a candidate who is not one of their preferred choices and not just sabotage the whole election just because they are not getting their way. There are two real choices left in this race. Do they want Donald Trump to be the nominee, or do they believe he will literally destroy the party if he is the nominee? If they want to go a different direction than that, now is the time to get behind Ted Cruz, because otherwise, it is going to be Donald Trump.
What a compelling argument for a candidate: not Donald Trump, Il Duce II. I don't blame Cruzers for taking that angle though. It's smart, and it's definitely Ted's most redeeming quality in the eyes of most Americans. Wow @ 2016. Just wow, from stem to stern.
That is the only argument that will persuade the Republican establishment types, as they are not big fans of Ted Cruz, as you may have noticed. In fact, they really do not need to support Cruz so much as they just need to clear out of the way so that Cruz can finish Trump off without them being in the way to screw it up.
Given this has been a common Republican theme/tactic for quite a while now and its only now blowing up in their face, what's the chance they actually do that? The Republicans brought the government to the brink of shutdown multiple times over little things. I have zero belief that they wouldn't ultimately sabotage themselves.
Here we go again. The Ted Cruz panhandlers begging to be taken seriously. Please crawl back into your SEC firewall. For years, your redneck country club candidate was among the right-wing nut-jobs slowly fanning the flames of intolerance, bigotry, and religious lunacy that Trump has now so masterfully unraveled. Like TheresTheDagger said earlier, your wing's so-called "right to be angry" was founded and propelled by bitter scorched-earth Ted and his shutdowns and grid-locks. Now, you want the rational part of the GOP whom you insult as "establishment" to get behind your equally offensive, equally demagogue of a presidential candidate as the Donald. Even if we were to get behind Slippin' Ted, you and I both know he will lose a bloodbath to Hillary. His Nixon-era policies and likewise demeanor are not going to bring independents or crossover voters needed to win a general election. In light of that, simply backing Cruz as the "Not Trump" candidate is admitting defeat. We have no choices left in the GOP anymore. When prompted between choosing Lunatic A or Lunatic B, I'd rather puke my guts out and not back neither. Let the inmates run the asylum. I will go seek a new party.
Here you see the mind set of Cruz and his supporters. Republican voters need to "get out of the way" of the great Ted Cruz. They say these things right at the time they need to do some serious sucking up to those Rubio/Kasich/Jeb/Carson voters to even get them to consider voting for Cruz. Its enough to make one want to vote for Trump just to watch them explode.
I don't see a proper Marco Rubio thread in this forum, so I am going to put this here. After all, it does accrue to the benefit of Ted Cruz. Below is an article from Leon Wolf at Red State. The Red State crowd has mostly been big Marco Rubio supporters over this time around, but have apparently lost heart over the last week and have now sadly observed that Rubio's campaign is effectively over. As a result, they appear to be despondently encouraging Rubio supporters to support Ted Cruz in an effort to stop Donald Trump. Leon may be right that Marco Rubio inadvertently sacrificed himself to take on Donald Trump. However, to be fair, Rubio has not ever really gained sufficient traction with the voters this cycle to be considered a real threat to win the Republican nomination, despite the traction he gained with Republican establishment types, big establishment donors, and the media, especially Fox News. Anyway, Rubio did perform a valuable service in taking on Trump the way he did during the last debate. If Cruz goes on to win this nomination, he will owe Marco Rubio in a pretty big way. Personally, I have always liked Marco Rubio, although he does not appear to me to be ready to take on the presidency just yet. But if Cruz wanted to offer Rubio the Secretary of State job, I believe Rubio would be a very good fit for that role, unlike Hillary Clinton.
I agree Rubio's campaign is over but the premise he tried to save America is laughable. By staying in the race after Super Tuesday he has proven he is only in this for personal reasons. Last nights results prove this even more. By him being selfish and staying in, he is making it more likely Trump wins. Staying in is the stupidest thing he can do because once he loses Florida his political career is over and it will probably give Trump the nomination and then Hillary the White House. Rubio is proving to be a selfish, unpatriotic idiot. While I am a huge Cruz supporter, I would be saying the same thing about him if the roles were reversed but then again I also know if the roles were reversed Cruz would have already dropped out to consolidate the anti-Trump vote. Cruz is in this to save our country. Rubio is in it just to be President.
