How is that any different than him assuming that I don't have a job and am lazy because I said HSA's were better than FSA's?
Why do you assume it's a choice? And why do you think it's a mental illness with their is a genetic basis for it? You say it's a psychological problem - but there is no science that agrees with that. You think it is just some person just flippantly deciding. But the science is there that it is not in the control of the individual.
He should TRY to get an HSA if he can. That's what I meant. I don't know if I would call transgenderism a body image problem. I think it is a body problem. As being born into the wrong body type.
That is exactly what it is though. People are unhappy with the body they got, even if it is perfectly healthy. For some it is a severe psychological problem. The question is where to we draw the line on this issue as it relates to both insurance and tax free expenditures? Do we say no cosmetic procedures and stop breast cancer survivors from getting implants (and similar cases)? What about physical deformities? Do we allow anyone with a diagnosable problem get fixed (which sounds ripe for abuse, if extended to other procedures)? Do we just go ahead and allow cosmetic procedures in general?
That's like saying gays should are just unhappy and bored of the sex they are supposed to be attracted to. Being unhappy with your body is different than being born into the wrong sex.
All I know is my premiums have gone through the roof since the ACA opened the gates for all these willy-nilly sex changes.
You draw the line where medical practitioners and psychologists say you should draw the line, and the medical literature is quite clear on gender dysphoria and treatment paths. It's one thing if you want to ignore that yourself, but to suggest that the line hasn't been drawn yet is simply not true.
No, it isn't. Some people have very severe psychological problems over their appearance. To treat them differently doesn't make sense. We've drawn a line, but it is erased and re-drawn all the time. We should always be thinking about changing the line.
Who says its a choice? Why does everything have to be black and white when in reality, very little is black and white? We are not simple robotic beings to be explained away with lines of code. We all have preferences in every aspect of life. By your logic, those preferences are not a choice, so they must some how scientifically be explained away. Im sure you can find some genetic code to explain why the smell of ketchup disgusts me. Or maybe its just lifes experiences that simply make up who we are. If someone wants to put on a bunch of makeup and wear feminine clothing, let them knock their socks off. As I stated, we all have our psychological issues, some more extreme than others. Regardless of the issue, if a person struggles with day to day life, then they should seek help. Why do we need to stop the world to cater to a fragile transgender person when there are all types of people who are bullied everyday, day in and day out. If you actually cared for a transgender instead of some silly movement, you would deal with the root of the issue, not the symptom.
nothings close to be evasive,the candor of health insurance decision is based on financial means in which the : cost of STG nationwide roughly 12 billion cost of restoring hair for males alone is about 300 billion
1) bullying sucks, period 2) bullying based on certain arbitrary traits like Confederate-defined race standards, gender expression, and strict norms of sexual orientation suck doubly as hard because it's really a lot of wind for nothing. not that there is ever a good reason to bully anyone, but bullying people for their identity? f**k that. 3) "bullying" in the sense of hate crimes seem to affect transgender people disproportionately, including multiple murders. 80% of transgender people report being assaulted. 4) since when is giving somebody the prescribed medical treatment "stopping the world"? How does somebody getting gender reassignment surgery affect you in any way?
Now apply what you just said to gender roles. and unless you're a member of the medical or clinical community, who is this mythical "we" you're talking about?
It's weird, you say nothing is black and white, but you have a black and white view that transgender people are just screwed up in the head and need help. Your views on gender are rigid, but then you decry rigidity when we talk about genetics. You are only attacking to support your rigid position - do you not see the irony??? It's not the movement that I care about. It's the fact that I know transgender people and have seen the struggle they face and the very very difficult decisions they end up making. They do it to align their physical sex with their gender identity. It's not a casual choice as you make it. Gender identity is not a choice. It's not like choosing a religion. It's like being born human. You identify as being human. Why can't you even entertain the possibility that it is not a choice? Why do you have to condemn it as a mental issue even though the science says otherwise? Isn't it a bit of arrogance to say you know better than what people who dedicate their lives to studying this through psychology and genetics say without even considering their evidence? Yeah, talk about black and white.
When did I ever suggest that I had a problem with a person getting surgery? I do feel that it should be considered an elective surgery. Ill be frank; I am not going to tiptoe around a transgender anymore than I would anyone else. If a person acts like a male, looks like a male and has male reproductive organs, then I will view them as a male.
If a TG struggles on a day to day basis, then they have psychological issues. You can flip it anyway you want, however at the end of they day, they need help to deal with whatever they are struggling with. There are TG's out there who live normal healthy lives who don't go into meltdown mode if someone accidentally or intentionally refers to them as the opposite sex. Did you not read a word I said? I clearly stated every being in this world has preferences which are not necessarily willful choices. Yes, I fully understand your semantics in that they do not willfully choose to be TG. Its a "nature vs nurture" argument, and you're completely convoluting it by dragging in the "willful choice" argument.
When did you suggest you had a problem with a person getting surgery? lolllll. even if insurance is paying for it, how does it stop the world? why does it even matter to you, or any world, that people are getting the clinical treatment prescribed to them? how does any of this stop the world? Nobody's telling you to tiptoe around j**k s**t, it just seems like you are tiptoeing around your own words. Lastly, I have no idea what you're getting on about with "treat them like a male" crap.
You don't seem to get it bro. The conclusion of all the things you're citing is NOT: then let's just keep classifying by sexual organs cause it's easier. Think: Why are we still classifying people if there are no clear subsets? What is the purpose of classifying people by sexual organs, what do we achieve with it? Can we achieve the same goals in a totally different way? Are those goals even relevant anymore?
So if a black man who was a slave had trouble dealing with being a slave then they have psychological issues??? Being forced to conform to societal rules and judgements doesn't mean you have issues, it means society has issues. It's not about flipping out being called the wrong gender, it's about the right to have surgery to address a genetic problem. You are the one trying flip it into something it's not. The scientific evidence is on the side of nature - why you are arguing against that is puzzling. Then again, it's puzzling why people are global warming deniers too. Or that vaccines cause autism. But hey, we live in the world where people rather trust some boozoo on the radio than sound science.
