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Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. Fyreball

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    Take Your Lump(s) With Trump?
     
  2. Nook

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    No ****.

    The adoration sounds like the supporters of Adolf Hitler.

    "One can say that his speeches to his people and the world have an audience unprecedented in world history. They are words that inspire the heart and have a lasting impact in forming a new international epoch, There is probably no educated person in the world who has not heard the sound of his voice and who, whether he understood the words or not, felt that his heart was spoken to by magical words. Our people is fortunate to know the voice the world hears, a voice that puts words into thoughts and uses those thoughts to move an era. This man is a man with the courage to say yes and no, without qualifying them with an if or a but. Millions of people are suffering from bitter sorrow, great troubles, and terrible need. They see hardly a star of hope through the dark clouds that cover Europe’s sky. No one is able to dispel the despair they face. But in Germany, God chose one from countless millions to speak our pain!" - Joseph Goebbels 1936
     
  3. JeffB

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    I wonder if Trump has ideas on who he wants as his own minister of propaganda?
     
  4. Nook

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    It has already started with my Conservative friends and family....... "Trump isn't that bad. He unites and inspires."

    If Trump gets the nomination (and we will know by the 15th), you will see the Republican faithful get behind him.

    The Democrats need to be aware that Trump will gravitate to the the center prior to the general election, and I suspect he will be successful doing so. He also can inspire high turnout.
     
  5. Nook

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    Trump as a Republican Presidential nominee is going to create a vacuum. The Republican establishment will be pushed out and new people will try to suck on to Trump to fill the void.
     
  6. JeffB

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    Republicans have to come to terms with him. It is team over country. So they have to find a way to support the home team no matter what it means for the country.

    Anyway, Trump has already stated he will move more to the center for the general. With a very friendly media covering/advertising his every move and an electorate with a short memory of or no memory at all of Trumps activities, thus far, he will have a fine opportunity to make his run.
     
  7. JeffB

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    No doubt about it. There will be a battle for patronage. Trump will control the gates into the executive branch. A lot of career making and power positions there.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    The best explanation for Trumpism and the destruction of the GOP was on twitter by some analyst I saw this am.

    Basically not only is Trump the fruit of xenophobia, dogwhistling, outsourcing etc but he is a direct result of "anti Obama at all costs!" strategy the GOP went all in on in 2008.

    Basically the GOP then sacrificed principles for power/short term political gain.

    Policies that the GOP used to support/advocate like Romneycare/Dole care became Leninist plots; they went from cap & trade to pure denialism; lip service to fiscal restraint was sacrificed for a ludicrous devotion to budget destroying tax cuts.

    All of these things represented the chucking of policy and principles for political gain and power.

    That is the *ultimate* essence of Trump ism, which is the antithesis of Obama.

    He is the opposite of nuanced, he is intentionally divisive, he has no policies other than slogans backed by absurdity, rather than cerebral and reserved he is craass, gaudy and crude.

    He is the ultimate appeal to a party that had no coherent message other than to obtain power and notoreity...that is what he is.

    I will post the whole thing I saw on twitter later
     
  9. justtxyank

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    We'll have to see, but I think there is a chance for this election to be one of those generational party re-balancing moments in history. I don't mean just a "Reagan revolution" or "Obama coalition" type situation, I mean a generational change in the same way that Civil Rights flipped the meaning of Democrat in the south.
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    I'm sitting on the edge of my seat waiting for you to embed Markos' tweet!!!11eleven
     
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  12. JeffB

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    There were analysts and politicians stating the GOP was playing with fire in their anti-Obama obstructionism while the obstruction was fresh. Many people could see a person like Trump emerging from the division and the inflamed passions and fear. Between a high ratings news network whose viewers consistently poll/test as ill-informed and party stance of disavowing its own policies for the sake of power and victory at all costs, the soil was ripe for something grotesque to emerge. History let us know how this was gonna go. The only question was just who was gonna emerge as the person to snatch the reigns.
     
  13. RocketsLegend

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    Calling Trump a racist because white supremacist groups support him is like calling Obama a racist because the black panthers supported him.
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    "Trump 2016: Possibly not Mussolini"
     
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  15. JeffB

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    Well I guess it is good that isn't the reason people call Trump a racist, then.
     
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    I'm conflicted about Trump. On one hand, I disagree with his the majority of his positions & views, but on the other hand I'd save about $200,000 in taxes per year under his proposed tax plan.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    Oh c'mon, you're not going to hold the things Trump actually says against him are you? I'm sure Trump doesn't even know which things that he says he actually believes and which things are just to get awful people to vote for him.
     
  18. LosPollosHermanos

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    Trump has said other things that qualify himself as a bigot?!

    Truth is that his supporters don't care if he's actually a neo-nazi or commie, that follow no logic or rational thought as it has been repeatedly displayed in this thread.
     
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    Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam and a black activist, supports Trump. Why isn't that on the airwaves? Is it because he doesn't fit the 'Trump is a racist' narrative? When was the last time the KKK was relevant? The majority of them are likely FBI informants anyway.

    Anyway, have a video of the MSM stumbling and stuttering when someone isn't a good sheep and follows their narrative. Shame the producer who plugged the vid probably got fired.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7yw9aN0HN64" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    And good ol' Ron Paul calling out the BS

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/A2yos6ei-cI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  20. RocketsLegend

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    You're actually investing time by going to spurtalk forum to find a gif to use in thread

    Trashy posters should take their no talent to a trashy forum and stay.
     

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