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Workout/Nutrition Help Thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by SK34, Jan 2, 2014.

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  1. AirBud#10

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    "thermogenic nature" eat 2 less kcal that day and reap the same rewards. same goes with satiety.

    Would love the link to studies you read to back up this lovely bit of broscience. I mean do they refute the several cited in the article I posted?
     
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    1.8 was part of the range I suggested earlier. Now you're saying that's the right amount?
     
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    1.8g/kg was the min you suggest earlier(.8-1). As proof you post a study showing that 2.4g/kg (1.1g/lb) is better than .5g/lb

    You didn't suggest 1.1 though did you. Why not if this was the evidence you are basing it on? That makes no sense, you disregarded that study in your advice.

    1.8g/kg (.8g/lb) is the max anyone possibly needs even if they are a strength athlete. Multiple studies show this. LEss is needed for most people. Your study showed this but the high range was ludicrous high. No middle range like the ones I posted. See the problem?
     
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    There have been more studies on it, that was just the first one I could find. They've all found that a higher protein intake (the lowest I've seen is .7/lb) beats a lower one in preserving/increasing lean mass at a calorie deficit.

    The .8-1/lb recommendation is just an aggregate based on all of the different studies I've seen.

    I don't understand why suggesting a small range, part of which being the number you seem to agree with, is so wrong.
     
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    Coconut oil...eat it!!
     
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    This is actually a pretty good hack. Heavy whipping cream has no carbs. I use it in my coffee with some ground cinnamon.
     
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    So you dismiss that one and jump .6g/kg for no reason but not to 2.4g/kg as the study you posted suggests.
    Yeah probably just a repetition of the broscience you have seen.
    When your lower is higher than was has found to be the upper beneficial limit, your range is high. There is a myth of 1g/lb being the golden amount when it is likely just because bodybuilders aren't good at math and can't be bothered to do 1.6g/kg calculations. Also the more is better mindset.
     
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    I really don't understand how keto guys make it. Cutting off so many foods would make me insane.
     
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    It's not just "2kcals" though. It's 25-30% of protein ingested is burned off by the body so you're only "using" 70-75%. That a major difference in the amount of food you can eat.
     
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    Eat an all protein diet, do brosplits, and let us know how huge you get. Post the results and your blood test results for BUN, creatinine and GFR in a year.
     
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    It's really not that many foods. Just bread and rice. I do eat them, but I treat it like desert.
     
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    this man knows what's up. it is pretty much the greatest food in the world, and pairs really well with IF. i also use it as a moisturizer. i go through a 16 oz jar every couple weeks. there are some days where nearly half my total calories for the day come from coconut oil (in black coffee or tea).

    some people put butter in their coffee and cook with coconut oil, but i'm the opposite. even though i adore the taste of coconut oil, i don't like using it to cook eggs or vegetables. coconut coffee is what mornings taste like to me. [​IMG]
     
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    you ARE insane for a few weeks, and then the carb cravings die down.

    low carb diets have a bad rap because most people (understandably) can't make it through the "keto flu."
     
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    I don't even want to know. I also heard you stink (BO). Whatever works for people to lose weight, just isn't for me.
     
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    I'm not a keto guy, I eat lots of carbs...just the natural ones instead of the processed ones. And I can eat whatever I want on Sundays. That's what keeps me from going insane.
     
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    The article you posted is looking for the ideal amount to build muscle, not the ideal amount to build muscle WHILE LOSING WEIGHT, these numbers aren't the same. More is better in this case.
     
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    Man you took the ball and ran with it. Please show me where I said that you should eat only protein? Much less where I gave workout recs. I'm waiting... For *most* people 1 gram/bw is more than enough while allowing for a person to split the rest of their kcals between carbs/fat as they see fit.

    Personally I don't believe a any of the macro nutrients should be skewed in one direction or another unless medically necessary but 1 gram of protein/bw isn't excessive in the slightest.
     
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    I bought a huge jar of Coconut Oil from amazon and it came in the mail yesterday. I have yet to eat any, but I did put a bit on my hands, felt nice and smelt good. Do I just shove a spoonful in my mouth once every few hours or?
     

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