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Bernie Sanders 2016 Feel the Bern!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. pirc1

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    If that happens, we deserve to have Trump or Cruz in office.
     
  2. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Unfortunately, it will happen. A lot of new voters are probably going to be really demotivated, especially as Hillary sways back to centre right politics vs Trump.

    She's also losing even worse than before in a CNN/ORC poll just released. Losing to both Cruz and Rubio at the moment IIRC.

    Bernie btw is beating everyone handily. Some polls are showing him leading nationally right now, but of course it may be over before then and popular vote doesn't make enough of a difference.
     
  3. glynch

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    Well the right wingers and even confused liberals want to pretend that school can take care of all the other problems of American society.

    Have a labor market system with a minimalist minimum wage so poor parents have to work two McJobs and then ask them to supervise their children and make them do homework. Pretend that they can keep working without health insurance or preventive care. Let the poor kids go to school hungry or go home to poor bombed out neighborhoods with absent parents and not get in trouble; have the kids be raised by grandparents because the jobless parents were locked up for weed. Pay teachers not enough and say all the prestige is selling bonds on Wall Street. Have the poor fund their school districts with property taxes from blighted neighborhoods.

    Above all pretend all the problems can be solved by education alone so we don't need to have a more equal society like other advanced countires and that we need to keep giving tax breaks to the rich to unleash the magic of The MARKET. Then pretend that free college tuition is not so important as those poor kids who survive the rat race below need some remedial courses before they can compete with the kids who graduate from world class public schools in well off neighborhoods or good private schools.
     
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    As a Sanders supporter, I have literally met 0 Bernie Sanders supporters who believe that a college education will fix all of America's issues. I think you mistake the somewhat well-informed young American progressive demographic with the Trump/Cruz supporting, Fox News viewing demographic that get their information from the corporate media.
     
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    Great day.
     
  6. Scolalist

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    Wish he had done better in Georgia & Virginia but winning Colorado & Minnesota could even out some of those delegates. Winning Oklahoma and stronger showings in Texas and Tennesee than expected were a surprise. He should clean up on western and northeastern states.
     
  7. VooDooPope

    VooDooPope Love > Hate

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    I'm disappointed in my fellow Texans. SMH
     
  8. cml750

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    Bernie is toast. Just as any socialist should be in this country.
     
  9. Rocket River

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    The cards were stacked against him . . . . .

    Rocket River
     
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    Does that surprise you with an admitted socialist???? Seriously???? Americans are smarter than that.
     
  12. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Smart enough to want a reality TV star instead. indeed.
     
  13. val_modus

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    Any comment connecting American voters with smart immediately loses validity in my book..
     
  14. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    We're still waiting for you to define socialism.
     
  15. glynch

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    You are right Bernie supporters don't. Just conservatives and many establishment i.e Hillary Dems do. Maybe I was confusing. I am responding to the above posters who are against free college because they claim a lot of our high school grads are not equal to the kids in Germany so Berrnie's plan for free college is a waste.

    These posters rightfully compare negatively our lower class kids after highschool with those in say Germany who have benefited from a society that gives a crap by putting financial resources to benefit nearly all the kids. These are societies that do not relegate the fate of poorer kids to platitudes about positive thinking or prayer/ church to justify low tax rates for the 1%.
     
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    I hope CML has never driven on a public road or dialed 911 or else he's a hypocrite or he just doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm assuming the latter.
     
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    Well said, I admit that I lacked context in your discussion. Not only are you correct in this fundamentally flawed view that many hold, but I also believe that it is absolutely absurd the level of criticism lashed out against Sanders in the form of questioning him on how he plans to pay for such a system, while NOBODY in the corporate media ever asks how any establishment candidate will pay for unjustified, perpetual warfare; tax cuts for multinational corporations that obviously don't need it; or ridiculous student loan interest rates that put so many students in a bind as to not be able to contribute to the economy in a productive manner. This election cycle, I believe, will be remembered not for the polarizing candidates, but rather for the failure of journalism in America- specifically Corporate America.
     
  18. ryan_98

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    any guesses on the delegate count now or when will those numbers be known?
     
  19. Scolalist

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    Don't forget Clinton swept Super Tues in 2008. I think Sanders did much better today than even he expected. Winning Colorado & Minnesota are huge delegate grabs. Getting as many delegates as he did in Texas as well. All of the delegates in Vermont, a split in Massachusetts and decent showings in Arkansas and Tennessee. Also is still a 30% Favorite among 18-29 yr olds.

    Let the momentum keep building. Go Bern
     
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    washington post puts it at 1001-371 Hillary. I think that includes about 400 super-delegates for Hillary who theoretically could change sides.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/2016-election-results/super-tuesday/

    It was a not-so super Tuesday for Bernie.
     

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