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Stephan Curry is unguardable...

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by sugrlndkid, Oct 31, 2015.

  1. Nick

    Nick Member

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    If the Internet was as main-stream in the early 90's, would there be a Jazz fan message board about how Hakeem was unguardable... With the usual pundits claiming that he wasn't, and there were a plethora of options to stop him with?

    Some guys are just special... Certainly in unique circumstances as Curry's perimeter excellence + limited physical play on the perimeter have coincided perfectly in this era... But what he's doing is still special/unprecedented.
     
  2. T_Man

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    I agree...

    T_Man
     
  3. valorita

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    All these old timers knocking on curry...
    Tell me anyone in history who has his combination of range, quick release, accuracy off the bounce, handles, finishing ability with both hands, footwork, movement off the ball, etc... Thats not even counting the intangibles like teammplayer, killer instinct, toughness.
     
  4. el gnomo

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    This has reached a level of 'I'll remember where I was when I saw it happen live'. Unbelievable.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    One of the stupidest posts I have ever read.

    The sad fact is that most of today's rotation players would have been stars in the unathletic garbage league of the early 60s..
     
  6. el gnomo

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    Sounds like a **** salesman with a mouth full of samples. Not sure if trolling or true idiot. If his daddy played in today's time, he would be Kyle Korver with slightly more melanin.
     
  7. blahblehblah

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    38 footer...
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  8. mac2yao

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    It's amazing to me that people think that simplistic concepts like "stay right on top of Curry all the time" and "extend your defense out a bit" is the magic bullet to shut down Curry.

    Regarding "stay on top of him, in his face"--first of all, that's easier said than done. While Curry doesn't have incredible run-jump athleticism, he's obviously extremely quick and fluid with fantastic handles. He may not be Allen Iverson quick, but there are very few defenders who can stay locked to him and none who can do it without fail. He's even made Kawhi Leonard look bad at times. Secondly, the Warriors exploit that kind of pressure defense schematically by implementing tons of back-cuts against aggressive defenders. Feel free to push up on Curry and try to beat him to the spot or to the screen...he'll simply reverse and go backdoor to receive a pass for an easy lay-up.

    Regarding "extend your defense out"--covering more of the court with five players puts the defense at a disadvantage. If you really want to try to cover everything below the half-court line with five players, the Warriors are going to exploit the truck-sized holes in your super stretched-out defense. The Warriors score a ton of points in the paint, not because they have great post-up big men but because they have defenses extended to their breaking point and a wide open middle of the court. Extending even further out is simply going to exacerbate the problem. That's why teams rarely pick up the Warriors' offense from half-court.

    Curry's really, really good. He's not just a great shooter...he's also a great ball-handler, decision-maker, passer and finisher. There is no effective defense scheme against such a player, you just try to play whatever scheme you're good at to the best of your ability and hope it's enough, much the same way teams approached Michael Jordan or Hakeem Olajuwon. Special players put your defense in jeopardy no matter what you do.
     
  9. T_Man

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    You have your opinion....

    The league was different back then and if you want to believe that statement good for you..

    T_Man
     
  10. omgTHEpotential

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    Boy was that a terrible post. Your join date doesn't surprise me either. One of the salty oldschool fans who can't recognize Curry's greatness.
     
  11. T_Man

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    Dell Curry shot just as well as Steph, he was bigger with the same type of quick release.. If not quicker and he played against defensive that were allowed to get a with more than they are today..

    So not not a salesman... Steph is in an era where he's doing remarkable things.. But again the era with Jordan was totally different than the era today..

    T_Man
     
  12. apcgamb24

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    Curry is on pace for 411 threes this year. And he missed two games. If he hadn't and kept up his average over those two games, he would be on pace for 421. Unreal.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    It was different in part because the players weren't as good as they are today.

    That's how progress works.
     
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  15. T_Man

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    If you think i'm salty cool...

    Curry is great in this era of no defense in the NBA... Not taking anything away from him... The kid can shoot... and like i've been saying so could his dad...

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  16. omgTHEpotential

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    No, you are taking a lot from him. He's not just a great shooter. He's the best shooter of all time. Also, he's got elite handles, great court-vision, quickness, can finish at the rim, is an above average defender.

    He is also having the greatest offensive season of all time.
     
  17. theoldblood

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    Durant spoke to the media after the game:

    "I'm taking my talents to the Bay Area."
     
  18. tksense

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    And for ppl to feel they have an answer by the name of physicality... Guess what, curry is STRONGER than Bogut.... You don't see how he takes physicality and finish all kinds of play in the paint? Smh
     
  19. T_Man

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    Every era players get more athletic...

    But it was different because of the rules... I have been saying this the whole time... The NBA has been changing the rules since 1994 and they really changed them in 99 to allow more offense.. another poster ask me to stop repeating myself, but some of you guys keep trying to change the past...

    The defensive rules are not the same and they were done that way for a reason to allow more scoring...

    Nick stated this in another thread...


    T_Man
     
  20. T_Man

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    Now see this is where we differ...

    He's the BEST shooter of this era with these rules....

    It's like trying to say who's the best center..

    Wilt, Kareem or Hakeem...

    They were all the best in their ERA...

    I'm not taking anything away from Curry... He can flat out shoot..

    T_Man
     

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