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Bernie Sanders 2016 Feel the Bern!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. larsv8

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    As opposed to what is happening now?
     
  2. VooDooPope

    VooDooPope Love > Hate

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    After watching the debate last night I take back what I said. If Bernie isn't the Dem Nominee I would either vote libertarian or abstain from voting for president.

    I don't think I could live with myself getting on the short bus Trump is driving.
     
  3. Bandwagoner

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    He has a great plan for what to do here. He could have just repeated Obama's plan.


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  4. rocketsjudoka

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    That's interesting coming from someone who supported Hugo Chavez.

    I have nothing personal against Bernie Sanders and agree he seems like a good guy. My concerns have to do with how likely his policies will get passed, what implications there will be, and also with if his revolution doesn't happen (or that quickly) what type of frustration will arise from many of his supporters.

    As far as his cross appeal I will point out that Vermont isn't the US, and especially the US south, Midwest or places like Eastern Washington and Oregon. Sanders might draw from some Republicans in Vermont but considering this was the state that elected Republicans like Jim Jeffords I don't think they are typical of the rest of the Republican electorate.
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm glad you see that.

    I'm sorry if I sounded harsh on your earlier but I admit to being blunt. My point was and still is is that we should look deeper at our political choices than just one or two issues.

    As I said before other than that they are both outside the establishment and grew up in NYC there is very little in common between Sanders and Trump. The people that Sanders rails about are people like Trump.
     
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    Sanders has spent his political life fighting bigotry and helping others. Trump has spent his political life using bigotry to help himself.

    If Sanders doesn't win, he'll support Hillary. If Trump wins the nomination, and people suggest Sanders' supporters will back Trump, Sanders (with an elevated position in the party and the media) will spend the general election attacking Trump's ideology (however shallow it is). Sanders may not think Clinton is sufficiently liberal, but he won't let his legacy be hijacked by a ****ball like Trump.
     
  7. Bandwagoner

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    The people who have made Sanders anything more than a sideshow hate Clinton and won't show to vote for her. I doubt many ron paul dude voted for mccain and hillary sanders is a way bigger gap.
     
  8. dharocks

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    Are you basing this on anything more than what some idiots are saying on message boards and social media, or do you have polling to back that up?

    Because what I'm gathering from those Internet/social media sources is that lot of these Ron/Rand Paul dudes are, inexplicably, Bernie supporters this time around. They don't seem to be part of the traditional democratic electorate, and I doubt the Clinton campaign is banking on their support.
     
  9. CometsWin

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    I placed my vote yesterday for Bernie but I think Clinton winning is just a formality at this point. Bernie is too gentlemanly and hasn't done an effective job in exposing Clinton. Unfortunately superficial things like age and appearance are a negative thing for Bernie. If he were 55 years old and were a little more aggressive I think he would be a more appealing candidate. It's sad but it's the reality unfortunately. I hope that Clinton, which she's really prone to do like a chameleon, adopts parts of Bernie's platform and I hope there's someone coming right now that can take up the torch for these important ideas, ie universal health care, free or low cost tuition, minimum wage hike, income inequality, fixing middle class killing trade deals.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    This.

    There is no way I see Sanders supporting Trump or even staying quiet in a Trump Clinton general.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm not sure if Sanders' ran a much more aggressive campaign and attacked Clinton like what we see on the GOP side that would help him. His campaign is one of reform including reforming the tone of the political campaigns. At the same time Clinton hasn't gone as negative as she could've. She could've dived into things like Sanders vacationing in the USSR, painting him as more of a true socialist (not just Democratic Socialist). Something that I'm surprised she hasn't done is point out that Sanders wasn't even officially a Democrat until he decided to run for President.

    I don't think Sanders has it in him to run a negative campaign but I also think both campaigns have decided they can't go all out because they are going to need the other's supporters when it comes to the general.

    Also in regard to Clinton adopting many of Sanders' positions Clinton is much more progressive than the caricature of her put out by both the Right and the Left is. One reason why the Republicans hated Hillary so much in 1990's was that they felt she was much more to the left than Bill was.
     
  12. Hakeemtheking

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    Cometswin, the race to be the dems nominee was going to be an up hill battle for Bernie from the onset. I saw the polls for super Tuesday and beyond. It is almost over for Bernie. Pity. Truly a good man.
     
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    How could anyone not on drugs support this clown?

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    At least he means well. Of the clowns in this election, he's like the 3rd worst.
     
  17. glynch

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    Who of Trump, Cruz and/or Hillary would you rate above/below him?

    The guy has some integrity, which is respectable and is more that I can say for anyone else involved in this traveling horsesh!t show of an election.
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    He was bought by the NRA and stood in line like everyone else for the F-35 pork.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah, I just picked a number, and 4th is more accurate of those remaining in the race. It is important to note though that Christie would also be worse than Bernie if he was still in it.

    4th worst might also not be correct, Ben Carson is kind of nuts too.
     

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