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Getting under that Lux Tax line - what is next?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Feb 22, 2016.

  1. T_Man

    T_Man Member

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    Best statement yet.....

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  2. larsv8

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    So for the record, you believe we should pay both Jones and Dmo what it takes to keep them next year because we drafted and developed them?
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I would choose one - if they fit, yes - and would have kept Parsons too.

    BTW - not one guy have we kept past the rookie contract under Morey - compare that to the Spurs or the Warriors or any other quality org these days.

    We can't flip our way to the championship - only once has that happened, the Celtics - VERY RARE....

    The Heat were a player conspiracy.

    DD
     
  4. larsv8

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    Umm.

    Mavs constantly flipped players
    Lakers flipped Gasol for Gasol and won a ring, flipped Gasol for Paul (vetoed), Bynum for Howard.
    Celtics flipped everyone
    Spurs flipped Hill for Leonard, dumped Splitter for cap space to pursue LMA
    Warriors traded away a bunch of guys to sign Iggy in free agency, as well as Ellis for Bogut.
    Cavs flipped Wiggins for Love.
     
  5. hooroo

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    Without Iggy & Bogut the Warriors aren't where they are today. Without Iggy they don't win their 'ship.
     
  6. heypartner

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    [Edit] Ignore per Bholic's correction

    The answer is obvious -- a Draft Day Trade

    As a pure salary dump, the trade will be structured similar to the Philly part of the voided trade. In fact, it could be Terry, Thornton and 2nd Rounder to Philly for Cash. That almost exactly matches Joel Anthony's salary.
     
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    same.
     
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  8. Mav-Hater

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    Waive DD

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  9. basketballholic

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    LOL at the the dingy draft day trade. That's after the season. Luxury Tax is figured on the last day of the regular season.

    Most likely scenario is we waive Jones and Thornton around April 12th and Philly (or some other team) claims them. That way Philly only has to pay 1 paycheck to the players and they inherit Terrence's bird rights. We could waive both players earlier if we know somebody will claim them. And it might be Terry that gets waived and picked up by Dallas instead of Thornton.

    But I think we waive Terrence and either Thornton or Jet and then sign a couple guys to minimum salary deals towards the end of the season. We may even find a player to sign to the balance of the MLE if it has pro-rated down enough to fit under the tax line and the player is agreeable to non-guaranteed salary in 16 and 17.
     
  10. topfive

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    It's not that Morey doesn't want to develop players and keep them, it's that he knows that role players can be found pretty easily, even good ones. If we had drafted a star-level guy like Porzingis, for example, Morey would know to develop and keep him. Morey prefers to maintain flexibility while he shoots for those players with star potential.

    Chandler Parsons was the ultimate test of that. We drafted and developed him, then the team waffled on whether or not to match the Mavs offer because CP was pretty close to that line between role player and star. Morey ultimately decided that we shouldn't pay him star money because he wasn't likely to actually develop into a star. I've got to agree with him on that.

    D-Mo might have been near that line, too, by now. His back injury, though, knocked him back enough that paying him as anything more than a role player makes no sense anymore. TJ is the same. You develop guys like them to see if they have star potential, and if they don't (and want big money), you have to know how to say goodbye and keep looking. The role players will always be available.
     
  11. dmoneybangbang

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    This. It's not about being cheap, it's about not overpaying and tying up space on players that don't move the needle. Parsons is an interesting case, however, Ariza essentially matched his overall production for a reduced cost.
     
  12. topfive

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    Yep. You may disagree with Morey's concept of championships being won by teams with multiple stars, but that's the plan he's decided on. And by sticking to that design, replaceable mid-level role players like D-Mo and TJ become expendable the day their rookie contracts expire.
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  13. DaDakota

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    1 & 3 in play now.

    DD
     
  14. oogie boogie

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    Don't see Jones or Donuts getting waived. I did see Thornton getting waived but for the hope that someone claims him off waivers. If someone does pick up Thornton then Houston doesn't need to do anything else. Unless they want to sign another player or something.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    There is no NEED to waive anyone, or buyout anyone, we don't NEED a roster spot.

    Instead of all hands on deck to try to get that playoff spot and salvage the season, we save money.

    That, once again, proves my point about Le$ Alexander's ownership of this team.

    DD
     
  16. xiki

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    Tip Jar bet that 1 or 2 CBAers (or D-Leaguers) come in?
     
  17. Asian Sensation

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    We're making the playoffs regardless. Might as well be under the line if we can achieve the playoffs without being over. If we were true contenders it would be different.
     
  18. hooroo

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    Be ballsy and place Jone on waivers. Buy out too Lawson too.

    Go hard after JJ and offer him a starter role.

    If a starting lineup of Ariza, Harden, JJ, Smith, Howard can click instantly they can ride the momentum far into the playoffs. Harden & JJ being the pseudo-PGs in that line up. Opposing teams would take a while to adjust at this new look.
     
  19. Asian Sensation

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    While the idea of JJ sounds good he's too ball dominant IMO. I'd rather have Kevin Martin. The better 3pt shooter and he doesn't need the ball to be effective. KMart spotting up for 3 would be a welcome addition.
     
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    All it does is prove Les isn't stupid enough to waste money on a team that will only win a championship if the top 4 teams in the league all lose their best player(s). Your hypothesis is whack like crack.

    The goal isn't to have a first round playoff sweep, what smart person would pay a luxury tax for that?
     

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