Republicans spew everything from overt racism to their usual dog whistled racism and black people notice and remember it all. The establish GOP made the calculus that they could win without the black vote long ago and this garbage that is spewed about black voters is not just racist itself, but a nice mask for the GOP to continue its course of protecting white privilege. When the GOO stops using black people as their political boogie men to rile up the republican base, then the GOP will see more black votes. Until then, that voting bloc will be tough to crack since, historically, black people vote for their lives.
Meaning the Republicans do not pander to black people, based on their "race," with baseless promises of handouts and special treatment the way that Democrats constantly do. As far as the "pretty racist stuff" from Republican talking heads that you speak of, I presume that you are talking about deviations from the racist political correctness rhetoric that is promoted by the Democrat left as part of their effort to impose a required public speech code on the people of our country; and around which college 'safe spaces' are constructed and for which 'trigger warnings' are issued. What a bunch of hypersensitive, self-serving fascist crap. The liberals are predominately the real racists and there is no desire by Republicans to demean black people. Rather, Republicans long to see black people break out of this demeaning state of dependency and bondage to Democrats and to become truly free. Of course this is not likely to happen as long as the Democrats promote the open border policies of Barack Obama, as these illegal immigrants are taking jobs that lower income black people and many other low income Americans desperately need to succeed and get ahead. Also, the public schools have failed the black community, and they have been consistently governed and run by Democrats, frequently black Democrats, for over 50 years now. Democrats are the primary proponents of these policies which, together with other policies, are keeping black people on the 'plantation' of the Democrats. Most Republicans advocate policies that would enforce the immigration laws, reserving job opportunities first and foremost for American citizens. Republicans also advocate rapidly expanding school choice (charter schools), giving everyone education alternatives so that they can acquire the knowledge and skills they need to succeed and even thrive in life. Please note that none of these policies advocated by Republicans are patronizingly targeted specifically or only at black people, but in both of these two examples, black people would very probably be the most significant beneficiaries. So you can see that Republicans are advocating policies that benefit black people, and it is the Democrats who are actually standing in the way. If you want to refute this statement, I would just ask you what are the Democrats even PROPOSING that would promise to substantially improve the prospects and circumstances of lower income black people, especially urban black people, the way that Republicans policies would begin to do with the two policy proposals, discussed above? What are the Democrats even seriously proposing? Tax increases? Global warming research? Medicaid? The Democrats are not even proposing any solutions that have the prospect of substantially improving these people's lives in a transformational way. Not a thing. And there is a presidential race on, right now!
Mojo, my man. Your presence is *eagerly* awaited in the Cruz Move Watching out thread. Your table for one is ready, sir.
Really we can stop right here. I'm not reading the rest of your post because THIS is the problem. This idea that black people want handouts and can be bought is EXACTLY why the GOP will never win among black voters, especially when polls show that many black communities are pretty conservative bible thumping people that preach hard work. To say "Black people only want handouts." is exactly the talking point that continues to get thrown about and is very presumptuous and it reinforces the idea that black people are lazy. The sad truth is that I bet the GOP could do well with many black voters if they actually attempted to fight for them and represent them, the "They just want free stuff!" narrative isn't helping. At all. Exactly. The black vote was republican for a long time because of slavery, then it turned democratic because of civil rights. It is completely a civil rights issue and black people believe that Democrats fight for them more. At least they pretend to. That is another problem, the GOP has just given up on the black vote entirely. Some will blame black people for being too loyal to the Democrats but it's on the politicians to convince people to vote for them. The politicians do the courting.
I think it is going to be very difficult for another Republican to overtake Trump. If Cruz can't win Texas decisively over Trump it's probably over for him. Rubio still needs to win a race and if he's pinning his hopes on March 15 Super Tuesday might be too late if Trump cleans up on March 1 Super Tuesday. The best hope for the GOP to defeat Trump is for Rubio to finish close in the delegates and have a brokered convention.
You put in quotes "Black people only want handouts," apparently attributing those words to me, as if I said them. Could you please show me where I said that? Because those are not my opinions or my words, your intentional misrepresentation to the contrary, notwithstanding. So you are saying you will refuse to read my post above (I believe you already did read it) because of a strawman argument you constructed around a statement that you attributed to me that you know I never made. Very nice. Black people want far more than "free stuff," just like all other people do. However, the acquisition of that other stuff depends on them being well educated, highly skilled, employed, self-sufficient and successful. I asked before and I will ask again. What are the Democrats even PROPOSING that would promise to substantially improve the prospects and circumstances of lower income black people, especially urban black people, the way that Republicans policies would begin to do with the two policy proposals, discussed (in my previous post) above? What are the Democrats even seriously proposing? Tax increases? Global warming research? Medicaid? The Democrats are not even proposing any solutions that have the prospect of substantially improving these people's lives in a transformational way. Not a thing. And there is a presidential race on, right now!
I don't care what you say MojoMan, but the majority of people know what it means when people say that blacks all vote democrat because they want free stuff, or when people like Hannity continue to say things like "Any democrat starts of with 47% of the vote" because they want free stuff (completely ignoring the fact that it is a flat out lie to say that the number of Americans on some form of welfare program vote exclusively democrat). On Fox News the other night, Judge Jeanine had a sherrif/cop/something from some small town in Pennsylvania describing why he supports trump. His answer was basically (paraphrasing) "The demographics have changed. Most of the good, Christian people are getting old and dying and being replaced with a...well a welfare type of people." LOL. Why not just say it? "White people are getting old and dying and lazy black and brown people are taking their place!"
Democrats start with 47% of the vote in part because THEY OFFER them free stuff, not because that is what they aspire to. What these people aspire to is the same sort of self-sufficiency and success as any other human beings do. Unfortunately, it very much appears that the Democrats do not want them to realize these aspirations, as their policies and performance in critical areas over the last 50 years have flat out sabotaged lower income black people and very certainly kept them down. As is widely known, the Democrats continue to adamantly promote the open border policies of Barack Obama, as these illegal immigrants are taking jobs that lower income black people and many other low income Americans desperately need to succeed and get ahead. Also, the public schools have failed the black community, and they have been consistently governed and run by Democrats, frequently black Democrats, for over 50 years now. Democrats are the primary proponents of these policies which, together with other policies, are keeping black people on the 'plantation' of the Democrats. Most Republicans advocate policies that would enforce the immigration laws, reserving job opportunities first and foremost for American citizens. Republicans also advocate rapidly expanding school choice (charter schools), giving everyone education alternatives so that they can acquire the knowledge and skills they need to succeed and even thrive in life. Please note that none of these policies advocated by Republicans are patronizingly targeted specifically or only at black people, but in both of these two examples, black people would very probably be the most significant beneficiaries. So you can see that Republicans are advocating policies that benefit black people, and it is the Democrats who are actually standing in the way. If you want to refute this statement, I would just ask you what are the Democrats even PROPOSING that would promise to substantially improve the prospects and circumstances of lower income black people, especially urban black people, the way that Republicans policies would begin to do with the two policy proposals, discussed above? What are the Democrats even seriously proposing? Tax increases? Global warming research? Medicaid? The Democrats are not even proposing any solutions that have the prospect of substantially improving these people's lives in a transformational way. Not a thing. And there is a presidential race on, right now! Instead, all you and they have is to play the race card. Pathetic. And also divisive and extremely harmful not only to these people, but also to our society as a whole.
[Premium Post] How Obama has set his priorities over these past several years has been baffling, as the life prospects of the inner city black population have dramatically deteriorated. Instead of addressing these crumbling inner cities, their high unemployment rates for blacks, their crumbling infrastructure, their crumbling tax bases, he has focused on cutting deals with Iran and Cuba and on fantasies like climate change and police brutality. Look at Flint, Michigan as a perfect example of how Obama has just totally ignored the welfare of the black community. That city is like so many other (dare I say all?) black urban communities in that it's governed by Democrats and it's a total disaster. Crime, poverty, crumbling infrastructure, everything is a disaster. Obama spent more federal dollars on Michelle's luxurious vacation to Spain than he has spent on helping the people of Flint, Michigan. The Democrats pay attention to the black community once every four years, and then conveniently forget about them. Obama has done some PR stops at funerals and Eric Holder went to Ferguson, but those were merely photo opportunities. When will the black community realize how badly their votes are being taken for granted? Their votes over the past 30 years have not helped them at all -- and their standard of living has declined on Obama's watch.
Here's your code... More code... and do people really talk like this? Wow. Just wow. Perhaps you should add a cartoon of a black person in chains. No wonder black people are flocking to the Republican party. You can see it in almost every campaign stop... Oh, I was wondering which "failed" Democratic program or policy was holding down "the blacks". Because I know all those low paying landscaping, housekeeping, day labor jobs that illegal immigrants have been taking away from lower-income black people. "Plantation"? Hey, another great opportunity for you to use your black slave cartoon. If only a political party promoted ideas on increasing educational opportunity for low income people... ideas like tuition free college, and extended school loans. Oh wait... those are Democratic ideas. republicans want to funnel dollars from public schools to private schools. So what are so more Republican ideas? I mean, other than doing nothing? Build walls, deport illegals, divert $$ from public to private schools. I can see why the 1% want all these things. They have wanted them your many years. hasn't attracted the support of lower-income people of any color. I have already listed one (tuition fee school). Increased spending on urban schools, including increased attention on job skills, including computer sciences, industrial automation, health sciences, etc. Increased attention and improved relationships between law enforcement and lower-income urban residents. Continued attention on removing barriers to advancement, including employment, housing, and health care. Just a few off the top of my head. None of which "promise free stuff" (other than educational advancement). But you continue on with the same tired "trickle down" programs and blaming the very people for the difficulties they endure... it has worked so well for you so far...
More money on schools (and pretty much everything) has been business as usual over the last 60 years. That clearly does not solve the core issues or provide these people with the quality educational opportunities that they need to succeed. All of the rest of what you said is also more of the same. It has all been tried and it all continues to fail. Something different than more of the same is required. What are the Democrats even PROPOSING that would promise to substantially improve the prospects and circumstances of lower income black people, especially urban black people, the way that Republicans policies would begin to do with the two policy proposals, discussed previously above? What are the Democrats even seriously proposing? Tax increases? Global warming research? Medicaid? The Democrats are not even PROPOSING any solutions that have the prospect of substantially improving these people's lives in a transformational way. Not a thing. And there is a presidential race on, right now! Why won't they support any solutions that have a real chance to make a difference? Why? {Hint: There is a reason}
The Republicans thought every brown skin hispanic is the same. They must have never heard how hated Cubans are by latinos lol.
Umm... All I did was summarize what you said...which again is a very popular republican talking point. Do you deny that? No, I really didn't read it. So why bring it up? Instead of bringing up that black people want handouts you could just say "Democratic voters." want handouts. Instead that argument seems to always be directed at black people otherwise again...why bring it up? We were talking about the black vote and that was the first thing you bought up... Well one, Democrats seem to realize that the war on drugs or specifically weed has hurt many black communities. Democrats at least throw around the idea of legalization. Two, Democrats listen to the concerns of police brutality. The GOP has not and plans to ignore such concerns and pretend they just don't exist. In fact the party stance on it seems to be "Well, stop committing crimes black people! Duh!" Three, various policies on education but I'm sure you will see those as handouts. Personally I think quality education is a right and shouldn't be quartered off to those that can afford it. Four, again...the policies don't matter when you are convinced a party isn't working for you in the first place. So even if there was a GOP policy that helped poor black people, it wouldn't be taken in good faith. The reason for this is narrative. Guys like Limbaugh, Bill O, Fox News in general and other conservative talking heads do not help. Your party leaders say nothing when those guys say their sometimes outright racist things, their silence condones it. I mean recently Bill O called out Trump for retweeting those racist stats but we know that's only because the party wants to be done with Trump because otherwise those are the same talking points Bill O goes to whenever he has something to say about the black community in general. You can talk all day about policies, some GOP voters vote against their interest. The narrative though and has always been that the GOP isn't very inclusive. Don't believe me...well lets think about it... Forget about the black vote for a second, you have to wonder why Asians lean democrat as well. Many GOPers as yourself in racial debates seem to hold them up as the model minority yet they are right behind blacks as always voting democrat recently. I'm always told in these racial debates that Asians champion hard work and all that good stuff that Conservatives preach after all. Every other minority voting bloc leans democrat. Speaking to the current candidates. Kaisch and Rubio in their last town hall on CNN actually did address some concerns that some black communities have. So there is that I guess, baby steps. The shout to deport illegals and the attack against Muslims I bet doesn't help. The narrative for the GOP has always been that it isn't inclusive. When they attack one minority group they are in actuality attacking all of them. Honestly this is about more than just the black vote. The GOP has a problem with minority/women voting in general.
If Republican lose the next two cycles, there is a very good chance the party split into two parties.
the majority of Hispanic and Black will not vote for Trump- thats just the way it is my friend: They dont care who is running in the democratic position- they will not vote for Trump.. oh and you know for a fact no muslims or any people that know muslims as friends will vote for him either..
Black people are individuals and just like almost everyone else, they vote for what they think is in their best interest...... and more often than not, that is the candidate with a "(D)" after their last name. Why do so many Mormons vote for Republicans? Why do so many single, college educated women vote for Democrats? Why do white males in the South over 45 vote for Republicans? There is no mystery here.......
Why would the 1% want to build walls or deport millions of young, poorly educated, labor force with an incredibly high birth rate? The 1% already have walls with private security force.
But there are many that vote against self interest, poor white working class voting against health care reform, billionaire voting for democrats, Republican party would not have the power it does if people all vote for self interest.
Oh Texans Please Please tell that hosehead Cruz to "take off, eh!" in the primary. He's not going to win. And by giving him credibility you're just keeping him in the race while Trump accumulates delegates.
