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Daryl Morey on 790

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by justtxyank, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. bulkatron

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    I think D Mo had recent imaging which showed no structural damage, but his problems were mainly in re-developing his core and back strength. Since I don't have an expertise in rehab I won't make any further conjecture, but I think Detroit probably got cold feet when they realized that there was a high likelihood that his back injury might recur and that he probably wasn't ready to play at last season's level; in other words, their short term gain was low but long term risk was high.

    However, all this should have been taken into account before the trade was accepted. This is a little bush league on Detroit's part.
     
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  2. jump shooter

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    Totally agree.
     
  3. Victorious

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    you can try to emulate all you want, but if you don't have the right coach or more importantly the right players, it will not work. are we still talking about the spurs like this if tim duncan does not fall into their lap?
     
  4. larsv8

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    And......the Hawks are not very good using that model, so who cares?
     
  5. cdrive

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    Morey alluded to medical laws as to why he had to be careful on what he could say. So he is talking about HIPAA health info privacy laws. And I guess I'm annoyed by that because, as a pro athlete, where your health is bought, sold and traded...isn't transparency fair? Not just to the teams but to the fans who drive all the revenue to begin with?

    He said Detroit "may have" looked at long term data, and that is where differing info "may have" arisen.

    Is he good to go or not, Daryl? The vagueness & corporate-speak is so frustrating.

    Also there was vagueness on when these guys will play or if they will play. He said they would do their "due diligence" in examining them when they return. Um,...whhhut? Why do you need to re-examine them? They're YOUR players. You knew how they were 72 hrs ago or however long. Seems like he was throwing smoke in case the return from a failed trade gets a little bumpy.
     
  6. jump shooter

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    That's all coaching IMO.
     
  7. heypartner

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    Did you miss the part about how the two teams shared the medical records? He's talking about providing medical details to the fans and media.

    But I'm with ya. I want more transparency about Ginobili's testicles. How exactly are his boys doing, and did he have to get one cut off!
     
  8. OpenLayup-Why3?

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    Why do they let everyone know when someone breaks or tears something, they told everyone what kind of surgery DMo had and what was wrong with him before. Why NOW it's the medical law that prevents Morey from speaking? Also Van Gundy (Stan) used same excuse the other day not to explain why he canceled the trade.
     
  9. cdrive

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    You can't compare nuts to donuts. Do I care if Ginobili's chandelier is lopsided now? Nope. It won't affect his play. Well I guess he might become more of a nurturing role for his teammates. But I guess I did miss the part about Morey sharing medical details with the fans. I might not have been paying attention that moment since I was driving. But it came across real secretive. I mean he even prefaced with 'medical privacy laws' to explain why he was being so vague. Is there or isn't there career-shortening, 'smoking gun', new medical data on D-Mo? Just tell us. I want to believe. I am an optimistic but also very gullible person.
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    I have no idea. But, it might be that players sign a waiver every time there's a disclosure to allow a team to discuss his injury. But, in this case Motie refused to sign one. (That seems unlikely though because we often get quick diagnoses courtside when injuries happen in-game. No way those are all individually waivered.) In any case, I imagine Motie's agent is involved in the non-disclosure somehow as he tries to preserve market value.
     
  11. OpenLayup-Why3?

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    I went on record multiple times, saying that DMo needs better agency to represent him. If that's the case and they're making his medical diagnosis private, they're only making it worse. Now everyone thinks DMo's career is over, so what worse could they be hiding?
     
  12. heypartner

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    OpenLayup-Why3?,

    It's just a matter of detail.

    Teams and Players disclose why someone is getting DNP'd...like Back Injury. Procedures like ACL, MRI and surgery are not a great amount of detail, but it helps fans and media stop making stuff up and creating wild rumors. It benefits the players/teams to prevent misinformation. And you are not going to be able to hide someone do rehab in a physical therapy clinic anyhow.

    In this case, they told us it was about longterm prognosis. There is risk. Why do we need to know more detail than that. The info seems perfectly transparent to me. The teams who need the info to make trade/signing decisions were provided access to everything.

    What I don't understand is why Kyrie Irving's Bed Bugs were kept a secret, and he was DNP'd for "Flu-like Symptoms."
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    You have the right to medical privacy. My guess is players don't care about acls and stuff like that affecting their future pay
     
  14. heypartner

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    Morey already stated that each team was provided the medical records. I'm sure DMo and his agent will do the same thing in the Summer. They just get the names of the physicians for each team and tell DMo's doctors to provide access to his records.

    They are not going to tell the public which teams they provided access, because that could tip their hand regarding who they are negotiating with.

    The public doesn't need to see the medical records to achieve everything you are worried about.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Can play NOW - told you so!

    Traded DMo to save money - when he is ready to contribute THIS season and NOW - come on - let's turn this thing around - he is the key.

    DD
     
  16. SamFisher

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    Can you think of any occasion in the past 15 years where a team has fired its coach in midseason (let alone twice) brought in a big name free agent coach, in midseason and engineered a dramatic offensive or defensive turnaround in midseason?

    I can't even think of a situation that satisfied the first two conditions, let alone the third.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    The third, not so sure, but D'Antoni and the Lakers over Brown comes to mind, and this year, Blatt and Tyrone Lue could satisfy the third.....and when was George Karl hired, mid season, right?

    DD
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

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    What do these satisfy?

    Dantoni Lakers sucked and the cavs were good when blatt was fired.

    The Kings completely suck
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    "For diligence sake, we'll review Detroit's findings. We'll take a look with his agent. He was back and playing prior to the deadline. He was cleared to play by multiple doctors on our side. "



    Let's see what they find...
     
  20. DaDakota

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    They satisfy a couple of the questions that were asked don't be obtuse.

    DD
     

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