Rockets trade D-Mo, Thornton to Pistons for first round pick

Recycle it

 

Some folks are too emotional for this business. He doesn't realize how much he contradicts himself from post to post in his quest just to bash the organization.

 

This all comes down to DMo's back injury and the risk the Rockets are willing to take.

 

This is the part of Morey's "asset management" people don't acknowledge enough.

 

You don't even need to go that far... it doesn't take an MIT analytical/statistical regression model to know that DMo post surgically repaired back with setbacks is not an appreciating asset. And this is before considering his restricted free agency.

DMo also probably lost the one person most responsible for his post-game development last year... McHale (at times, he was a carbon-copy of the pump-fake/up-and-under moves that McHale patented).

 

Absolutely true, I agree with everyone you said. But when you have DD and BTG pulling strongly on the side that Morey really screwed the pooch, then you have guys taking a strong stance just to oppose them, saying things they usually aren't going to say and things that are plain wrong, even though they too would initially admit that it was a bad trade.
For example, recently in the DMo X-Factor thread, a couple of guys chimed in and said that Donatas could've helped in the Blazers series two years ago and somewhat slow down Aldridge and they were immediately shunned by a crowd of people spouting nonsense, saying it's revisionist history and that they were DMo only fans. And then I haphazardly stumble on this thread a couple of days ago - http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=253353
I don't like this atmosphere. Everyone can have different opinions, but don't be against people altogether. DD and BTG have gone too far in their criticism, but a fair share of it was warranted, don't discredit them wholly. Of course, the same goes for DD and his sudden crusade against Morey, the same one Carl Herrera had after the PPat trade.

cyberx posted a comment a while ago saying that Morey was somewhat willing to give Dragić the 4th year player option, but Les was strongly pushing for Lin and that the Rockets made a LOT of money off the Asian market in the two years that Jeremy was here. Les willingly sacrificed the product on the floor (okay, he probably hoped Jeremy could recreate Linsanity in Houston, but Dragić was a safer choice), so he could put more money in his pockets.

Lowry was a cancer on the 2011-12 team, he singlehandedly ruined the prospect of Houston getting to the playoffs. Even Matt Bullard admitted it was ugly. Morey simply had to get rid of him, and he even got a key piece (Toronto lottery pick) in return that he then used in the Harden trade. On the other hand, Dragić was a perfect fit for the Rockets offense, he loved Houston, he loved playing for McHale and McHale loved him. We'll never know how it would've turn out, but he was a lot better than Lin.

 

Yes like Cyber said Morey may go after him.
That's the most risk of all. Since he's a rfa.

Do you prefer paying 22 per to Barnes or paying 20 per to DMO?
I personally think 22 for Barnes is a huge mistake.

That's very good and all...so you think that Morey won't go after Batum/Barnes?

Oh and since he's so methodical I'm sure he knows that after next season Harden expires. So if we keep our flexibility and tank next season on cheap contracts we will have to convince Harden to resign with us.

I honestly don't think even many role players will take 1 year deals. From last year with the cap rise who did? Only AA. It's too risky to do it even with the carrott of more money. Almost every player who isnt' a star values security over anything else.

 

Barnes will get his money from multiple teams. D-Mo on the other hand will not get anything above a 2 year contract & max I see is 2 yrs / 15 mill.

 

absolutly he will get it from multiple teams. But why should we be one of them?

People here are saying "We only pay stars" . Does Barens seem like a star to you? To pay 22 per?
And I just put the absolutely best case scenario of DMO.
Otherwise it would have been : pay 22 to Barnes or pay like 12-14 per to DMO?

 

Barnes is not a star to me. Batum isn't' either. Just start clearing your mind with how much 22 million is now. 15-20 mill is for players who are average. 21-30 is for players above average and considered All Stars.

That will be the going rate going forward.

 

So he hasn't been watching the Rockets.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Donatas Motiejunas (had to pretend he likes &quot;I'll Have What Phil's Having&quot; on a date) is out Sunday</p>&mdash; NBA Injury Report (@NBAInjuryR3port) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBAInjuryR3port/status/701490505381781504">February 21, 2016</a></blockquote>
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If SVG decides to void it could mean Morey's going in all hardcore to offer a buyout to Lawson that gets the Rockets under the tax.

 

Sources say no truth to the reports that J.B. was referring to Motiejunas' back when he said "We are broken."

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The 76ers cannot make any roster decisions regarding Joel Anthony until the 3 team trade is finalized.</p>&mdash; Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) <a href="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/701483438998691840">February 21, 2016</a></blockquote>
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And a first round pick once drafted, is an appreciating asset. Since his contract starts to be on the clock. Except to reach DMO's perfomance it takes years for him to develop if ever.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Pistons have requested an extra 24 hours to further evaluate D-Mo's back. Physical not approved yet. <a href="https://t.co/QmuJt45bg5">https://t.co/QmuJt45bg5</a></p>&mdash; ClutchFans (@clutchfans) <a href="https://twitter.com/clutchfans/status/701494816702509056">February 21, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Are you saying its impossible to match the development of a former 2nd round international player pick that required overseas training, with a first round pick?

I do agree that once the player gets drafted, the value of the pick typically declines (unless the player is amazing). What I would be looking for is a similar package deal that allows you to perform a trade/sign-player-to-extension deal, similar to how the Rockets got Harden.

 

For those who freaked out about this trade (Dd) if the trade is voided, do you still want Morey's head on a platter?

 

IMO the uncertainty around his physical further validates the move, despite painful it was as a dmo fan

 

Just the fact we are here validates it,IMO