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Bernie Sanders 2016 Feel the Bern!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. cml750

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    Bernie is feeling the Hillary burn today!!! lol...
     
  2. Scolalist

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    He lost by less than 5% in a state he didn't plan on winning and was trailing by over 25% in polling just a few weeks ago. Don't really see it as a defeat at all.
     
  3. dc rock

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    Race is over. No better strategist than Mook. May be better than Plouffe. Hillary doesn't have an Axelrod, though.
     
  4. Scolalist

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    LOL. You know they've each won 1 primary and split the other. This won't be over be over till the end. The ground he made up and delegates he won are more than what was expected. After Clinton was up by nearly 25% a few weeks ago in Nevada.

    He still has the momentum and is picking up the undecided votes.
     
  5. Hakeemtheking

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    This race will go all the way to the end, unless Hillary starts winning big, Trump style, something she hasn't accomplished just yet.
     
  6. Nook

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    Huge primary win for Clinton and well deserved and earned.

    Trump did what he needed to.
     
  7. Space Ghost

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    How is winning by a couple points a huge win when she should be winning by well over double digits? And nothing she does is well deserved.
     
  8. Roxfreak724

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    If you mean by "well deserved" well bought, then yes, a well bought narrow victory for Clinton
     
  9. TheresTheDagger

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    Even when faced with a candidate as flawed as Hillary, Bernie couldn't close the deal.

    I don't know who todays results are a bigger indictment of. Bernie and his inability to bring voters to his side with such a flawed candidate as Hillary,

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    the Hillary voters who would actually vote for a candidate that lies to their face, is a scandal producing machine, and most likely will face indictment in the next several months.
     
  10. LosPollosHermanos

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    The people voting for Trump or Cruz have bigger issues. They're all potential psychopaths.
     
  11. Scolalist

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    She got 19 delegates to Sanders 15. This really doesn't hurt him at all. He wasn't banking on even coming close to winning Nevada. A few weeks ago he might not have gotten 3 delegates. If the polls are true he's rising at a rapid pace the same way Obama did starting as the underdog.

    It's obvious she's dishonest and she sounds like Sarah Palin debating. All these videos and stories coming out make her out to be the moderate, Wall Street and Banks having $$$ behind her with their continued interest in mind. As Sanders points out. She was a Republican and campaigned for Republicans as she started out in politics

    The more and more America sees of Bernie crush her in debates. He's been doing these debates for 50 years and she just can not shake him at all. His always cool and respectful to her and always comes out honest and likeable. I just think as the weeks and weeks go by with 3-4 more debates. He's going to go on a roll.

    She really shot herself in the foot lying and saying he had no support of Obama and tried to drive a divide between him and the minority voters, when he rarely opposed an Obama policy and just had a great meeting with Obama that was confirmed by the White House press secretary. There is much mutual respect and admiration. Not even that he's been involved in civil rights activism since the early 60's. She's already losing the women's votes thanks too the dumb comments Albright & Steinem said.
     
  12. Scolalist

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    Trump is just disgusting and I can't believe people are buying into his BS, lack of experience, no respect for any candidate, moderator. I really felt bad for Jeb, getting insulted.

    This is all a hoax for him to have more book deals and tours and speaking fees, etc

    Rubio too me is the only one really smart enough too want to get behind if I was a Republican. But even he is going to get smoked by Sanders/Clinton
     
  13. Space Ghost

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    I would say you do not understand politics. Big money and corporations do not buy the candidate, they buy the party. And by party, I mean both Republican and Democrats. Do you really think big money cares whether there is a D or an R by the candidates name? At the end of the day, all they care about is the policy that will or will not be enacted. They dump a lot of money into elections to ensure they get their candidate. A Hillary vs Bush/Trump election is a matter of a good win vs a better win. Lets not act like the majority of the voting base really takes the time to research the candidates.
     
  14. TheresTheDagger

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    First, what in my comment made you think I don't know the above is typical in most elections?

    Second, what does the above statement have to do with my statement concerning voters choosing Hillary over Sanders? Did they slip every Hillary voter a $20?

    Meanwhile, do you really think Trump or Sanders gives a s hit what the party or its big money donors want? This year isn't like every other year.

    I would say YOU don't understand politics that well....except I'm not arrogant or cocky enough to make such a statement about you based on 1 internet post.....

    I will however state UNEQUIVOCALLY you don't know s hit about me or what I know.

    SMH.....
     
  15. Dubious

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    Ms. Clinton is a known commodity in politics, a corporate centrist and international "manager" She has been front and center of the public eye for 30 years.

    Mr. Sanders has been outcast, derided as a "socialist" for 20 years. It takes a lot of repetition and campaigning to get people to listen to his ideas and consider how "American" they actually are. He is up against 50 years of corporate and cold war propaganda that have framed the mindset of most Americans. It's a long haul to get to national familiarity much less acceptance. And let's be frank, it is even harder when you are old, non-Christian and a Northeasterner.

    It's going to be an interesting race and it's really good to get the social cooperation aspect out there in the public consciousness. It's so opposite from the hubris of the clown car side.

    *elections are 'bought' by lobbyist and PR firms by controlling the general narrative. It's not just campaign ads. It's owning newspapers and TV networks. It's skewing polls with paid for results, it's planted opinion pieces and buying endorsements. There is no 'market' for left leaning information dissemination since the public airwaves are supported by commercials. Exxon is not buying ads on a show about global warming, JPMorgan Chase is not sponsoring shows about mortgage or LIBOR scandals.
     
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    She's failed at every stop. She is where she is because of her sham marriage to Bill.
     
  17. Dubious

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    Much the same as Trump is a trolling the GOP, GOP'ers should be for Ms. Clinton because it would ensure another 4 years of sweet sweet gridlock.
     
  18. NewRoxFan

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    Texx, texx... I realize that last night's results brought you sadness and shame, but taking your frustration out here won't make it better. Take Sunday off... pick up a good book, or possibly even the Good Book, and hopefully Monday will be a better week.
     
  19. rocketsjudoka

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    Under Sanders gridlock is going to be as great if not greater. The GOP hates Clinton but they are firmly ideologically opposed to Sanders. If they have been opposing Obama's relatively moderate agenda they have no reason to support Sanders' revolutionary agenda.

    Further for those critical that Clinton wasn't a Democrat 45 years ago consider Sander's wasn't one officially until he decided to run for President. People deride Clinton as the candidate of the Dem. establishment yet consider for Sanders' to have any hope of his agenda he needs the establishment. Something that he and his supporters are campaigning against.

    Clinton on the other hand has been working and raising money for the Dem party for years. Ironically if Sanders' wins he will have to count on the money that Clinton has raised and the party insiders he derides to try to take back Congress if he want's any chance of passing his agenda.

    Here is a good article on Sanders' problems with the party.
    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/02/sanderss-party-problem/460293/
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    I think this will still be a long race and there still is a very good chance that Sanders' wins the nomination but the numbers still aren't looking good for him.

    I agree that Sanders still has some momentum and comparing where the polls were two months ago did very well in NV. The one thing that should be very troubling to Sanders is that while he did better with Latinos than expected he was still crushed in black voters. That difference will play a much larger role in SC and the other Southern States which might allow Clinton to build up enough support to firmly control the race.
     

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