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Christian Hackenberg - Your quarterback of the future

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  1. Hey Now!

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    I really dislike this line of reasoning; it suggests that O'Brien excluded obviously better choices to pick his own guys and that's remarkably untrue. First of all, Ryan Fitzpatrick was not a Patriot/BOB guy. Yes, he got Mallett and Hoyer, young-ish guys with some upside he was familiar with.

    But you act as if he passed on free agent Drew Brees or didn't draft Andrew Luck to do that. He passed on... Bradon Weedon. TJ Yates. Johnny Manziel... insert the name of any other exceedingly mediocre QB...

    Passing on Carr in round 2, IMO, is the only egregious offense of his (short, btw) Texan tenure - and most of that is hindsight-fueled.

    And Hackenberg has no relationship to Hoyer or Mallett. Their failure has zero relevance to him.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Well he DID pass on obviously better players just to go after his guys. There's very few people NOT better than Hoyer and it's pretty obvious yet that was his priority. Passing on just about anyone that has played QB in the NFL the last several years is passing on obviously better QB's than Hoyer.
     
  3. Joshfast

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Franklin refused to coach to his strengths, so execs trying to get background on everything. Interesting prospect. <a href="https://t.co/huJfYWQkF9">https://t.co/huJfYWQkF9</a></p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/700525169022992384">February 19, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    Franklin might have a difficult time recruiting high ranking high school qb's in the future with the way this narrative is playing out.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Well that's what happens when your system takes a QB who had success with other coaches and makes them terrible. Bad coaches get bad recurits.
     
  5. Spacemoth

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    Knocking every QB prospect down a round or two, and calling them all trash in yet another "down year" for quarterbacks is what crappy scouts do.

    Criticizing QB's prior to the draft is like clubbing baby seals. Almost none of them pan out, and if they ever do it's usually by year 3 or later, so nobody is around to call you out on your mistakes. What ensues then is a bad movie critic writing a bad movie review: fun to read and to write. There's little accountability out there.

    Every year then, we hear that it's a "down year" for quarterbacks. When will it not be a down year? No one is around to review the draft coverage and say people really blew it on guys like Derek Carr or Russell Wilson. Sure, there probably won't be a prospect as polished going into the draft process as Andrew Luck was. Doesn't mean there won't be a handful of guys in the next decade who outperform Luck once they get to the big leagues.

    So screw the NFL pundits, screw everyone who is just throwing **** against a wall just trying to make a name for themselves, or worse yet to say the safe thing so as to keep their jobs. Just let the decision makers make the decisions, and if they turn out wrong then we'll get our mob lynching eventually.
     
  6. coachbadlee

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    Christian Hackenberg is not the QB the Texans need.
    The last thing we need is another pocket statue.
     
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    Dak Prescott is rising...no homo. Listening to national radio and apparently he's looked at as the fourth best qb in the draft. Should easily be there in ghe second
     
  8. DonkeyMagic

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    I think he will impress people and could be a "sleeper". I haven't seen much from him but when I did he sure looks like he has the skill set and from what I remember he seemed to a great attitude and approach to playing. Again, it's very minimal exposure on my end, but he seemed to have that "it" factor
     
  9. Chilly_Pete

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    Just my opinion but I would rather have Prescott than Hackenberg.
     
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    Obviously you haven't watched Hackenberg play. He's far from a statue. (Mallett)
     
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    I'm hoping somebody "accidently" locks BOB in a closet come draft day. They should keep him there until the third round.
     
  12. coachbadlee

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    Oh I've watched him play. I've seen him get extremely erratic under pressure. I've seen him take way too many sacks. I've also noticed his lack of arm strength.
    He is no where near other top QB'S in this draft. No where near a 1st, 2nd round pick talent.
     
  13. showa13

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    Don't buy into the Prescott hype. He's a Tebow type with a slightly better arm. I've seen him play twice in person. He's shorter than he looks, and I just don't trust his arm enough. Would be a great H-Back or TE, probably no better than a career backup QB
     
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    Not saying I want him to be the Texans QB.

    Just saying he isn't the statue you make him out to be.
     
  15. Nimo

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    Are there any "experts" ranking Hackenberg any higher than the 5th best QB in this draft? I see them mocking him to the Texans but they are ranked he is usually after Cook.
     
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    I have a feeling he'll move up their boards after the combine/private workouts.
     
  17. Two Sandwiches

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    No way to tell as it's lying season, and they're not talking.


    There are a few saying that they're not putting a ton of stock into some things on his tape as he was in a system that was terrible for him. Then there are people, like Pro Football Focus, who have essentially knocked every quarterback down a few rounds, who are very down on him. Depends on who you trust.

    Also, its before the combine and interviews, so quarterbacks can have a large swing in stock, either way, as yes evaluate the mental aspect of their games, among other things.


    As you know, I want Wentz, Goff, or Hackenberg. The first two are likely to be taken far before us and well out of range for us to trade up. If we get to pick ten or so, and one is available, I wouldn't mind trying to do something like our first and second this year and our second next year to move up. I want to avoid Lynch and Cook at all costs.
     
  18. coachbadlee

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    Right now my QB board is:
    Jones
    Lynch
    Wentz
    Goff
    Brissett
    Prescott
    Hackenberg
    Cook

    Just too many more talented QB'S ahead of him.
     
  19. Nimo

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    I meant analysts and writers not team personnel. Those don't have any reason to lie. And I haven't seen any of them rank Hackenberg any higher than 5th. PFF still has Goff and Wentz in the first (like Kiper's latest mock) and Lynch rated a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

    What if Hack doesn't impress at the combine? What if his stock doesn't go higher? That's a possibility.
     
  20. Nimo

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    Comical!

    Goff
    Wentz
    Lynch
    Cook
    Hackenberg
    Prescott
    Jones
    Brissett
     
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