Rockets trade D-Mo, Thornton to Pistons for first round pick

Good teams KEEP their better players - we have let so many good role players that fit with Harden go, and replaced them with cheaper guys who sort of fit.

Case in point, Parsons and Ariza - Parsons is a PERFECT fit, Ariza is a decent one.

We need a guy that can catch and SHOOT and create - Parsons does both, Ariza does not.

He is trying to build around Harden but seems to have ZERO clue as to the type of player or style of player he needs.

Patterson fits
Scola fits
Dmo fits
Parsons fits
Brooks fits

Lots of fits, we just jettison because we don't want to pay them.

DD

 

How many rings do the fit guys have?

 

It isn't about pay except for Parsons and DMo.

Scola was the best amnesty candidate because of his contract and we needed to give PPatt and Morris playing time to develop. Every team used their one-time amnesty...it's the smart thing to do.

PPatt -- I hated the trade, but it was largely made to give DMo and TJ playing time to develop

Brooks got injured by Ginobody and ended up in China. That wasn't about money.

Parson got a max offer from Cuban, so yes, it was about money

bottomline: You must note, when you flip flip flip the same position PF, you are giving the younger players a chance. If we don't cut/trade Scola, then people yell about PPatt getting no burn, and if we don't trade PPatt, then your precious DMo gets no burn...and you lose your mind.

 

We love ya, dude. You were feeding us our crack cocaine. Sure, these things don't come to fruition, but I think Daryl wants to stand on what he has and then work out some deals in the summer.

I would guess this draft pick might help us net Harrison Barnes, maybe Al Horford, I don't know. I'm aiming lower than Kevin Durant because I don't find him realistic.

I hope your treatment is going well. I know it's rough; my aunt Denise went through some of the same. But she's cancer free now and doing well. As will you be.

 

Irrelevant they are role players, that make the whole team better. We build around Harden.

DD

 

You are kicking the can down the road, and wasting Harden's prime....hoping that the next guy is better.

Right now - our PF flip has been a disaster.....and we just traded the best one we have had since Scola - why? Because we did not want to pay him.

Our team is cheap - cheap teams don't win rings.

DD

 

It's amazing that Codman updates all his info and still couldn't find any mention of the one trade that actually happened.

I find that good news. I might mean that Morey has a pretty tight-lipped inner circle, so Codman, Plowman and cyberx are getting info from the other teams/agents.

My guess is Morey had the DMo offer in his back pocket, since he already knew DET would be interested from their Draft Day discussions last year. So he plays the card at the 11th hour and no one hears about it. Or, maybe he and SVG talk about it in riddles leading up to the deadline without using names, by saying "The Draft Day deal" revisited or something.

 

Why would you want to build around a player that lacks discipline on and off the court, not a good leader and plays lackadaisical..

That makes no sense.. I'm not saying get rid of the guy, but I am saying he's not the type of player you build a team around...

In your other post you say Harden is a Robin, so why would you want to build a team around someone like that.

T_Man

 

We did pay Scola. He had a significant contract, and he's too old for the Harden era, which is why he was amnestied to give PPatt and Morris playing time.

What you are actually saying is that we never should have drafted TJ and DMo. We should have stuck with PPatt. Why don't you say that like me and Carl Herrera do? Because you are a hypocrite and wanted Morey to flip PPatt.

PPatt > DMo

If you disagree with that statement, then you are agreeing with Morey that you needed to trade PPatt.

Which one is it DS?

 

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I don't think so, but I also don't think Jones will command the same that Donatas would. I'm sure the front office would have liked to get a 1st rounder for Jones as well if there was an offer for him out there, but Jones value is almost nothing now. I also have suspicion that Jones was kept in order to keep Dwight and James happy seeing as they're friends. Everyone on the team seems to genuinely like each other with the exception of Lawson who is having a rough past 365 days.

I don't think see Jones on the team next season. I think we keep Josh Smith as the back up 4 while Montrezl develops.

 

This is a great move, it clears up two free agent contracts that the Rockets were probably not going to resign anyway and we walk away with a first round draft pick as a cherry on top...

D-Mo's back is probably a real concern moving forward, not to mention he has realistically probably gotten as good as he is going to get on the court.

This was clearly a salary cap chess move to make way for the off season free agency market.

 

He was at the time of drafting him, sure - I like PPat. It was the same situation, they kicked the can down the road again.

It took DMo 3 years to be better than PPat which he is now, and we kick the can again for a draft pick and a maybe.

We get rid of players who can shoot, for some strange reason.

DMo was the only big that can shoot.....

DD

 

How is DMo injury prone exactly? He has had one injury in 4 years.

DD

 

DMo is not better than PPatt. But, let's say he is. Then you clearly are saying Morey should have traded PPatt.

Had we kept PPatt, DMo never would have gotten enough PT to develop. Hell, many teams wouldn't even have drafted another PF, if they decided to keep PPatt and Morris, especially after drafting TJ and White ahead of DMo.

Point that you are missing is you can't have it both ways in your argument. You can't say we always kick the can down the road without first saying it was key to kick PPatt's can down the road to develop DMo on the court.

I, for one, say screw DMo's development. I wanted to keep PPatt outright and not pick another freaking PF. And that would have made us a better team THIS FREAKING YEAR, to still have PPatt vs DMo -- it's a chemistry thing and leadership thing with PPatt had. So there's that, too.

You are saying we should have both PPatt and DMo on this team right now. You can't have both PPatt and DMo, without first planning to pick one over the other as they finish their rookie scale contracts.

 

How many rings does Harden have?

 

D-Mo can still be a Rocket in a few months. This trade does not mean D-Mo is gone forever. Or Rockets can use that salary to upgrade at the position. D-Mo can still go on to success elsewhere.

Bright side D-Mo fans, there really is one.

 

Also, here's another fact for your hypocritical logic, DaDakota.

We never even draft DMo without kicking cans down the road and flipping rookie scale players.

The pick that landed DMo was created by trading Brooks for Dragic and ORL's 23rd pick, which was then traded for the 20th pick on draft day.

No DMo without kicking Aaron Brooks' can down the road. And we got Dragic, too.

 

As many as Kevin Durant and Anthony Davis have combined.

 

JJ Redick is a guard whose primary role is to shoot. D-Mo is a 7 ft big man whose primary role is to bang down low. Bad logic by SVG.