Enough with the "Morey sucks at drafting" nonsense

Aside from GSW, Spurs, and OKC those teams have had a plethora of picks from being in the lottery or trading their super star. How many years has it been since Utah and Denver traded their "superstars"? How have the Suns been since they traded Nash? I see a lot of teams that have been spinning their wheels and without a true franchise player, except for maybe Drummond (who Morey tried to trade up for).

 

And possibly Mil but they too have taken a step back this season.

 

draft. We are talking about drafting not being a good gm in general.

And yes a great drafter can be a bad gm as well as a bad drafter can be a great gm.

Depending on the state of progress of the team it matters at different degrees.
Hinkis drafting is much more important than Moreys i.e

My examples posted above were late picks. I didn't even include lower than 10 picks.
Utah and Denver have amazing young talent. So have the Suns (regardless if they have owner issues). And a lot of that talent wasn'tt selected in top 10.

 

A good GM has to be both a 'good drafter' and a saavy business guy. Saying you can have one without the other is asinine.

 

chandler parsons is offended?

 

Noone is perfect. Not everyone is rc buford. You can be a good gm with bad drafting skills by basing most of ypur roster building on trades. And vice versa.

 

He drafts OK. Anybody say different is sniffing paint. Also ,if c.Parsons was a great pick he would have actually been picked in the 1rst. Give me two trys at anything and watch my success rate drastically improve.

 

Stop talking about the spurs...that's a once in a lifetime group they have over there...It's like comparing teams to the Warriors. Standard is ridiculously high.

 

Morey is an average drafter. I see people's point such as "he doesn't keep any of them." But a lot of them aren't worth keeping to be honest. Parsons would be expiring this season along with Dwight, but instead we have Ariza still locked up to a friendly contract. Capela and Montrezl both show promise. Jones had all the tools to be able to give you 15 mins a night, but unfortunately he has a rock for a brain. Somethings you can control. I won't crucify Morey for getting a draft pick for Dmo. It is a very disappointing deadline, but quiting on Daryl after what he did is just... ridiculous. It's not on him that the same team that showed heart for the past two seasons has quit.

Or I guess it is since he traded for and signed these players.

 

Compared to who?

 

Congrats clutchfans You will now have this echoed into you for the next 6 months straight. Jesus

 

It will be longer that of Dmo is successful in Detroit. He already said he's going to troll the GARM every time he has a good game. Lol

 

He is a tad above mediocre at drafting. Nothing to see here.

Mediocrity and 1st round exits have been defining the Rockets for years.

We had couple of outlier years where we got out of the 1st round but that was just a glimmer of hope put to rest by our brilliant ownership and management.

 

Fair enough. Time will tell how good their talent really is as keeping it is a big part of it too. However, I still think Morey is an above average drafter.

 

Lol @ Dekker already being labeled a bust

 

How quickly we turn on Morey. Went from, " In Morey We Trust". To all this, but hey I spoke on him using every player not name Harden as an asset, killing team chemistry to show everyone his analytical approach works and not keeping his home grown talent.
Hopefully things will work itself out like it's done in the past 3 seasons.

 

Ridiculous comments

Glad I did not conclude my comments with In Morey I trust.......

I used to be a Morey fan but never did I say those things repeatedly

I gave him credit for some moves, and I put some blame on him for other moves

Now I have no attachment to Morey or Harden

 

Yeah a lot of people on here used that phrase a lot when things looked promising. Even the local radio hosts were driving that phrase to home Daywalker.
Personally I never liked his philosophy but it was working somewhat. I say somewhat because Harden Iso was heavily and teams like the Warriors and Spurs are showing us the better version of what he wanted to achieve.

I don't blame you, this season has been a disaster mainly because of those two.

 

I do not know much about the Bay Area GS management but the Spurs management has been the best or 2nd best for a long long period.

GSW came as a surprise, when Marc Jackson was coach you did not hear that much from them other than "Man down" fouling our shooters

Every day you look at GSW you would think what Houston could have been

They got teamball, decent Defense and Curry, a better Harden with the drive to be great.

Never see that coming from a mile

 

we're talking about 1st rounders here (Morey has a solid track record in the 2nd round vs. other GMs). We've had 8 1st round picks in his 9 years here (including '07 Brooks, leaving out Mirotic and Batum) in the 12-26 range.

People are saying "he hasn't drafted an All Star" and "look at Kawhi", etc. Yes, those guys are out there. But, most of the time, someone has to get somewhat lucky. I'd imagine there is probably 1 All Star in every draft in that 12-26 range?

With ~9 All Stars and 14 other teams in that range, we have 8 shots to get 1 of those 9 guys...out of 135 picks. You might expect to find 1 in 15 years.

I'm not saying Morey is above average at drafting. But I am saying that even an average or above average drafter may very well not find an All Star in 8 years drafting in those positions. The odds are just stacked against you.

(I'm not trying to account for the fact that better players are more likely to be drafted earlier, so maybe you can cut it to 11 years or something to continue the super rough math.)