Enough with the "Morey sucks at drafting" nonsense

Drafting is luck.
No denying it.
Also almosst 50%+ is player development no denying it.

But when you have teams like Denver who have one of the BEST international scouting programs and consistently out of nowhere bring amazing young players with late picks..that's not coincidence.

It's also ability.

 

We can just cut off the "At Drafting" part.

DD

 

I personally believe that Ainge, Hinkie and Morey are not good drafters because they overstate the analytics. Like for example all that hoopla about Tyus Jones.

Sometimes it works but you have to have a good eye as well..and I don't think they have.

Just my personal opinion as a fan, I'm not a draft expert or a scout. Just what I have observed from the outside.

It's especially obvious with Hinkie.

 

mavs also

 

This is how some fans react when their dreams are crushed and or they're too emotionally attached to one particular player verses the team.

 

I don't get why people criticize Hinkie so much. KD was a no brainer, but the players he got to surround him with was as good as you can get. People hated the WB pick when he made it, stating that he wouldn't translate well to the NBA. Hinkie of course came from the spurs, who don't just rely on analytics.

 

No, I'm a realist when it comes to DMo and was very surprised we made this move. I know more about how much I like DMo then you do. We don't know what happens behind closed doors. Lots of maybes. Maybe the Pistons were going to throw a lot of money at DMo this offseason, more than we were going to.

As far as building winning rosters.... Maybe you mean championship... As the rockets have been over .500 how many years under Morey?

 

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I critisize Hinkie the Philly GM who makes the scouting decisions and is obvious on what he makes his decisions on, I'm not critisizing Presti.

Hinkie has wasted countless second rounders who were actually very high and hasn't hit on anything beyond going the "safest" option. Even Embiid was "safe" the last of the top 3 with superstar potential.

 

Glad that's your metric. Adelman got a roster that was complete **** compared to this one and was on pace to win more games. Also, being over .500 shows how dire the situation is if you have to bring it up. It means (all the years except this one) nothing in the western conference. If you do bring it up, it shows you are in the worst position possible. Crappy draft choices and a close to nonexistent chance at any success if you do make it to the post season.

 

My bad, multiple tabs open and read that wrong, yes I 100% agree with you. Enough CF for one day, tbh.

 

c'mon now...the majority of these "good" drafters got ONE pick right...and even then, it's not always within their control. If Morey would have lucked out just one year and scored a trade up for Cousins, he'd be on that list and it wouldn't have anything to do with his decision making, but with how the Kings were feeling at the time.

the others sucked at the time, so their mind set isn't the same...easier to gamble, more positions to fill. You think Houston is looking for shooting guards? Mostly pgs and forwards...Capela was likely in anticipation of Dwight leaving or getting hurt.

that leaves ONE TEAM that could actually be a true "good drafter" based on multiple picks and with winning years..


And are you going to pretend Morey didn't draft Parsons? You could even put Harrell in there based on some of these names. I guess he's a good drafter, then??

 

I think our drafting is fine given where we've picked . But our player development team sucks . Other teams actually play their picks and those players learn a system . We send our guys to the deleague where it's a no defense, me first ****show. KJ's value has never been lower . Montrezl hasn't gotten minutes ? Capela is struggling and seems to have lost the attributes that made him good in the first place .

 

OP is on Drivel Mediocre's nuts.

 

Not only that, but at the time SF was our biggest position of need- not the tweener PF that we ended up drafting.

To be fair, at the time of the draft I really wanted us to draft Kawhi Leonard (would have been a homerun!) or Chris Singleton (is he even in the league anymore?). The draft is really just a crapshoot

 

well expect when that one pick is an MVP candidate. (no need to add Manu, Parker and all the other low picks who SAS have turned into at least rotational players don't you think??? I put the limit at 8 years afterall! Same as Moreys time as a GM).


errr no. That doesn't leave ONE team. Not when Jazz and Denver are doing what they are doing with such low picks. Which aren't at their control in case you didn't know.
All the teams I have posted are great drafters and much better than Morey who has only hit basically on Parsons.

Capela? Good for 20 pick. Not at the level of those guys.
When you get a backup C like Capela at pick 20 you get it as success. But not as evidence of an elite drafter.

 

Please keep up with the conversation, as a claim was made Morey can't build a winning roster. It was a pretty vague claim as "winning roster" can mean a few things, but he has certainly succeeded at his mandate to field a competitive team and not tank.

Crappy draft picks? How many of his draft picks have gone on to get paid? Morey has shown he can consistently find NBA level talent that has the ability to stay in the league past their rookie contracts and go on to get paid.

 

Capela wasn't even the example I was using of a good pick, it was Parsons and Harrell, whom you have now completely ignored twice , to try and prove your point.

 

So did McHale. Even had the same success with a very similar roster as Ricky did in the previous season his first year here.

Your metrics seem to be whatever fits your adoration of Adelman...

 

It's honestly one of the most perplexing draft picks I can ever remember the Rockets making. If I remember correctly, we had an aging Shane Battier and Chase Budinger on the roster. We badly needed a SF for when Battier inevitably hung it up/regressed to the point of being worthless. On the other hand, we had Scola shoring up our PF position. There really was no question what our greater need was.

Morey has no clue how to evaluate elite college talent. Now, once they get to the pros and he has some data on a player and how he actually fairs against NBA defenses, Morey is a stud. His analytics are second to none at this point.

 

That is not the goal, we are not improving, we did not BUILD upon last year, we regressed a lot of that reason is because of the decisions or philosophy of Morey.

DD